Quadratic Equations: Homework on Non-Real Roots

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The discussion revolves around a quadratic equation with non-real roots and the implications for two related quadratic functions, P(x) and Q(x). The participants analyze the discriminants of these functions, concluding that one must be positive while the other is negative, leading to the realization that exactly one of P(x) or Q(x) is positive for all real x. This conclusion indicates that the correct answer is option d. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the relationship between discriminants and the nature of roots in quadratic equations.
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Homework Statement


Let a,b,c be real numbers with a>0 such that the quadratic equation ##ax^2+bcx+b^3+c^3-4abc=0## has non real roots. Let ##P(x)=ax^2+bx+c## and ##Q(x)=ax^2+cx+b##. Which of the following is true?
a) ##P(x)>0 \forall x \in R## and ##Q(x)<0 \forall x \in R##
b) ##P(x)<0 \forall x \in R## and ##Q(x)>0 \forall x \in R##
c) neither ##P(x)>0 \forall x \in R## nor ##Q(x)>0 \forall x \in R##
d) exactly one of P(x) or Q(x) is positive for all real x.

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The Attempt at a Solution


The first equation has non real roots which its discriminant is less than zero.
b^2c^2-4a(b^3+c^3-4abc&lt;0
\Rightarrow b^2c^2-4ab^3-4ac^3+16a^2bc&lt;0
\Rightarrow b^2(c^2-4ab)-4ac(c^2-4ab)&lt;0
\Rightarrow (b^2-4ac)(c^2-4ab)&lt;0

##b^2-4ac## is the discriminant of P(x) and ##c^2-4ab## is the discriminant for Q(x) and both the discriminants are less than which means both P(x) and Q(x) are greater than zero for all ##x \in R##.

But there is no option which matches my conclusion.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Pranav-Arora said:

Homework Statement


Let a,b,c be real numbers with a>0 such that the quadratic equation ##ax^2+bcx+b^3+c^3-4abc=0## has non real roots. Let ##P(x)=ax^2+bx+c## and ##Q(x)=ax^2+cx+b##. Which of the following is true?
a) ##P(x)>0 \forall x \in R## and ##Q(x)<0 \forall x \in R##
b) ##P(x)<0 \forall x \in R## and ##Q(x)>0 \forall x \in R##
c) neither ##P(x)>0 \forall x \in R## nor ##Q(x)>0 \forall x \in R##
d) exactly one of P(x) or Q(x) is positive for all real x.

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The Attempt at a Solution


The first equation has non real roots which its discriminant is less than zero.
b^2c^2-4a(b^3+c^3-4abc&lt;0
\Rightarrow b^2c^2-4ab^3-4ac^3+16a^2bc&lt;0
\Rightarrow b^2(c^2-4ab)-4ac(c^2-4ab)&lt;0
\Rightarrow (b^2-4ac)(c^2-4ab)&lt;0

##b^2-4ac## is the discriminant of P(x) and ##c^2-4ab## is the discriminant for Q(x) and both the discriminants are less than which means both P(x) and Q(x) are greater than zero for all ##x \in R##.
##(b^2-4ac)(c^2-4ab)<0## means that one of the discriminants is negative, and the other is positive.
 
jbunniii said:
##(b^2-4ac)(c^2-4ab)<0## means that one of the discriminants is negative, and the other is positive.

Oh yes, thanks! :smile:

This means that the answer is c?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Oh yes, thanks! :smile:

This means that the answer is c?
If one of the discriminants is positive, that means the corresponding quadratic has real roots, right? So it can't be c.
 
jbunniii said:
If one of the discriminants is positive, that means the corresponding quadratic has real roots, right? So it can't be c.

Woops, I meant d, I switched the options in my mind. :redface:
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Woops, I meant d, I switched the options in my mind. :redface:
At least it wasn't an exam! :biggrin:
 
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