Quadratic Formula (Equilibrium Points)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding equilibrium points of a differential equation and understanding the derivation of a specific expression related to the quadratic formula.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand how a specific form of the solution, y = -1 ± √(1 - μ), is derived from their application of the quadratic formula to a differential equation set to zero.
  • Some participants provide insights into simplifying the square root expression, suggesting that √(4 - 4μ) can be rewritten as 2√(1 - μ).
  • Another participant emphasizes a mathematical property regarding the manipulation of square roots.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications and insights into the mathematical expressions involved. There is a recognition of the need for conceptual understanding, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the original poster's question.

Contextual Notes

The problem context includes a differential equation and its equilibrium points, with a focus on the quadratic formula's application. The original poster expresses confusion about the transformation of the solution, indicating a potential gap in understanding the underlying mathematics.

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Homework Statement



The following is part of a solution to a problem about finding equiblirum points of a differential equation and sketching its bifurcation diagram

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9194/63226925.jpg

How did they get [itex]y= -1 \pm \sqrt{1- \mu}[/itex]?

Homework Equations



The quadratic equation:

[itex]\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Setting the DE equalt to 0:

[itex]\frac{dy}{dt} = \mu +2y+y^2 = 0[/itex]

Using the quadratic formula:

[itex]y = \frac{-2 \pm \sqrt{4-4 \mu}}{2}[/itex]

[itex]= -1 \pm \frac{\sqrt{4-4 \mu}}{2}[/itex]

So how did they get that answer? :confused: Any explanation is appreciated.
 
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[itex]\sqrt{4-4\mu}=\sqrt{4(1-\mu)}=2\sqrt{(1-\mu)}[/itex]

ehild
 
roam said:

Homework Statement



The following is part of a solution to a problem about finding equiblirum points of a differential equation and sketching its bifurcation diagram

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9194/63226925.jpg

How did they get [itex]y= -1 \pm \sqrt{1- \mu}[/itex]?

Homework Equations



The quadratic equation:

[itex]\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Setting the DE equalt to 0:

[itex]\frac{dy}{dt} = \mu +2y+y^2 = 0[/itex]

Using the quadratic formula:

[itex]y = \frac{-2 \pm \sqrt{4-4 \mu}}{2}[/itex]

[itex]= -1 \pm \frac{\sqrt{4-4 \mu}}{2}[/itex]

So how did they get that answer? :confused: Any explanation is appreciated.

This type of thing happens over and over again, so you should learn it once and for all: [tex]\frac{\sqrt{X}}{a} = \sqrt{\frac{X}{a^2}}[/tex] if [itex]a > 0.[/itex]

RGV
 
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Ah, I didn't see that :redface:

Thank you very much guys.
 

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