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The discussion revolves around understanding the mathematical steps between specific equations in quantum information theory, particularly focusing on the transition from equations 2.17 to 2.18 in a set of lecture notes. The scope includes technical explanations and mathematical reasoning related to unitary operators and their expansions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the transition between equations 2.17 and 2.18, seeking clarification on the steps involved.
  • One participant suggests that every unitary operator can be represented as \( e^{i \epsilon A} \), where \( A \) is a Hermitian operator, indicating that equation 2.18 is an expansion of the exponential function.
  • Another participant argues that equation 2.18 is unrelated to 2.17, describing it as a Taylor expansion of \( U(R(t)) \) around \( t=0 \), where \( t \) represents parameters such as Euler angles.
  • A later reply clarifies that the expansion involves a Taylor series around zero, providing a general form of the expansion and noting that the parameter \( \varepsilon \) is chosen such that \( R(0) \) is the identity element of the group.
  • Participants discuss the definition of \( Q \) in the context of the first-order term of the expansion, indicating a connection to the representation of the group.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of Taylor expansion in the context of the equations, but there is disagreement regarding the relationship between equations 2.17 and 2.18, with some asserting they are unrelated while others seek to understand their connection.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the parameters and the definitions of the operators involved, which remain unresolved.

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I don't understand the step between equations 2.17 - 2.18 in these notes:

http://www.theory.caltech.edu/people/preskill/ph229/notes/chap2.pdf

Can somebody explain what's happening there to me please?
 
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You just expand the U up to linear order. What exactly is not clear to you?
 
barnflakes said:
I don't understand the step between equations 2.17 - 2.18 in these notes:

http://www.theory.caltech.edu/people/preskill/ph229/notes/chap2.pdf

Can somebody explain what's happening there to me please?

I think that every unitary operator can be represented as ei [tex]\epsilon[/tex]A where A is Hermite operator. (2.18) is basically expansion of exponential function.
 
2.18 is unrelated to 2.17. It's just a Taylor expansion of U(R(t)) around t=0, where t is some set of parameters (e.g. three Euler angles when R(t) is a rotation).

Edit: Weird...I didn't even see Haushofer's reply before I posted.
 
Apologies, it sounded unclear from what I wrote, I want to know about the bit after 2.17 that leads to 2.18. I know the two equations are unrelated.

ie. R = I + eT, what does that mean that U = 1 - ieQ + O(e^2) ??
 
It's just a Taylor expansion around 0.

[tex]f(x)=f(0)+xf'(0)+\frac 1 2 x^2 f''(0)+\cdots[/tex]

[tex]U(R(\varepsilon))=U(R(0))+\varepsilon\frac{d}{d\varepsilon}\bigg|_0 U(R(\varepsilon))+\mathcal O(\varepsilon^2)[/tex]

It assumes that the paremeter [itex]\varepsilon[/itex] has been chosen so that [itex]R(0)[/itex] is the identity elememt of the group. The function [itex]U:G\rightarrow GL(V)[/itex] is a representation of the group G, so it must take the identity element of the group to the identity element in GL(V). The Q that appears on the right is defined by writing the first order term of the expansion as [itex]-i\varepsilon Q[/itex].
 
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