Quantum - Two State Problem in different bases

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The discussion revolves around a two-state quantum system, focusing on the Hamiltonian operator and another operator A in different bases. The original poster is working through a problem involving eigenvalues and eigenvectors in the context of quantum mechanics, specifically addressing parts of a practice set that includes calculations in two different bases.

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  • The original poster attempts to find eigenvalues and eigenvectors for both the Hamiltonian H and operator A in specified bases, expressing confusion particularly in part b regarding the normalization of eigenvectors.
  • Some participants question the normalization of the eigenvectors provided by the original poster and suggest that the eigenstates can be expressed in terms of the energy-eigenstate basis without further work.
  • There is a discussion about the correct expression of the eigenstate corresponding to the eigenvalue of A and its relation to the eigenstates of the Hamiltonian.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications regarding normalization and the relationship between eigenstates. The original poster acknowledges the feedback and expresses gratitude for the clarification, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of quantum mechanics, particularly the implications of different bases and the normalization of vectors in the context of eigenvalue problems. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the mathematical expressions align with the physical interpretations in quantum mechanics.

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Homework Statement


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(Working through a problem from a practice set for which I have a solution available, but still don't understand. I get the same answer as they do for part a, but get lost in part b, I think. Relevant portions below)

Consider a two-state quantum system. In the orthonormal and complete set of basis vectors ##\langle 1 |## and ##\langle 2 |##, the Hamiltonian operator for the system is represented by (ω > 0):
$$H = 10 \hbar \omega |1⟩⟨1| - 3 \hbar \omega |1⟩⟨2| - 3 \hbar \omega |2⟩⟨1| + 2 \hbar \omega |2⟩⟨2|$$
Consider another complete and orthonormal basis |α⟩, |β⟩, such that ##H|α⟩ = E_1|α⟩##, and ##H|β⟩ = E_2|β⟩## (with ##E_1 < E_2##). Let the action of operator A on the |α⟩, |β⟩ basis vectors be given as:
$$ A|α⟩ = 2ia_0|β⟩ $$
$$ A|β⟩ = -2ia_0|α⟩ - 3a_0|β⟩$$
where ##a_0 > 0## is real.

a) Find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of H in the |1⟩, |2⟩ basis.

b) Find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of A in the |α⟩, |β⟩ basis.

c) Suppose a measurement of A is carried out at t=0 on an arbitrary state and the largest possible value is obtained. Calculate the probability P(t) that another measurement made at time t will yield the value as the one measured at t=0.

Homework Equations


Eigenvalue equation: ##|X-\lambda I | = 0##

Orthonormality: ##⟨x|y⟩=\delta(x-y)##

Probability: ##P(t) = |⟨\psi_0|\psi(t)⟩|^2##

The Attempt at a Solution


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My disagreement with the available solution comes when writing the prepared state for part c in terms of the eigenvectors for the energy.

a) From the equation for H we can write out the matrix for H in the |1⟩, |2⟩ basis as:
$$ H = \begin{bmatrix}
10ℏω & -3ℏω\\
3ℏω & 2ℏω
\end{bmatrix} $$

Then ##|H-\lambda I | = 0## gives eigenvalues of ##\lambda_1 = ℏω = E_1## and ##\lambda_2 = 11ℏω = E_2##,
with corresponding normalized eigenvectors:
$$|\lambda_1⟩ = |α⟩ = \frac{1}{\sqrt{10}} \begin{bmatrix} 1\\3 \end{bmatrix}$$
$$|\lambda_2⟩ = |β⟩ = \frac{1}{\sqrt{10}} \begin{bmatrix} 3\\-1 \end{bmatrix}$$

b) To get the matrix for A in the |α⟩, |β⟩ basis I use the given action of A on the basis vectors and their orthogonality:

$$ A = \begin{bmatrix} ⟨α|A|α⟩ & ⟨α|A|β⟩\\ ⟨β|A|α⟩ & ⟨β|A|β⟩ \end{bmatrix} =
\begin{bmatrix} 2ia_0⟨α|β⟩ & -2ia_0⟨α|α⟩-3a_0⟨α|β⟩\\ 2ia_0⟨β|β⟩ & -2ia_0⟨β|α⟩-3a_0⟨β|β⟩ \end{bmatrix} =
\begin{bmatrix} 0 & -2ia_0\\ 2ia_0 & -3a_0 \end{bmatrix}$$

Then ##|A-\lambda I | = 0## gives eigenvalues of ##\lambda_1 = a_0## and ##\lambda_2 = -4a_0 ##,
with corresponding normalized eigenvectors:
$$|\lambda_1⟩ = \frac{-1}{\sqrt{3}} \begin{bmatrix} 2\\i \end{bmatrix}$$
$$|\lambda_2⟩ = \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \begin{bmatrix} i\\2 \end{bmatrix}$$

c) The largest possible value of A that could be measured is ##a_0##, which prepares the system in state ##|\psi_0⟩ = |a_0⟩##

To get the time dependence for the wave function, I need to express |a_0⟩ in terms of the eigenstates of the Hamiltonian. The way I thought this would be done is simply by writing |a_0⟩ as a linear combination of |α⟩, |β⟩ basis vectors as follows (using the vectors found in part a):
$$x|α⟩ + y|β⟩ = |a_0⟩$$
Giving a system of two linear equations,
$$\frac{x}{\sqrt{10}} + \frac{3y}{\sqrt{10}} = \frac{-2}{\sqrt{3}} $$
$$\frac{3x}{\sqrt{10}} - \frac{y}{\sqrt{10}} = \frac{-i}{\sqrt{3}} $$

Solving for x and y gives me: ##x=-\frac{3i+2}{\sqrt{30}}## and ##y=\frac{i-6}{\sqrt{30}}## for:
$$|a_0⟩ = -\frac{3i+2}{\sqrt{30}}|α⟩ + \frac{i-6}{\sqrt{30}}|β⟩$$

The solution for the problem that I have is consistent until this point, where it gives (without showing any work):
$$|a_0⟩ = \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}|α⟩ - \frac{2i}{\sqrt{5}}|β⟩$$

Any help with where I've gone wrong here would be much appreciated!

Thanks
 
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leo_africanus said:
Then ##|A-\lambda I | = 0## gives eigenvalues of ##\lambda_1 = a_0## and ##\lambda_2 = -4a_0 ##,
with corresponding normalized eigenvectors:
$$|\lambda_1⟩ = \frac{-1}{\sqrt{3}} \begin{bmatrix} 2\\i \end{bmatrix}$$
$$|\lambda_2⟩ = \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \begin{bmatrix} i\\2 \end{bmatrix}$$
Your vectors are not normalized. The ##\sqrt 3## is not correct.

Note that what you are getting here is ##|\lambda_1⟩## and ##|\lambda_2⟩## expressed in the energy-eigenstate basis ##\{ |α⟩, |β⟩ \}##. So, you immediately have the expansion of ##|\lambda_1⟩##, say, in terms of ##|α⟩## and ##|β⟩## without further work.

Their answer ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}|α⟩ - \frac{2i}{\sqrt{5}}|β⟩## appears to correspond to the eigenstate of ##A## with eigenvalue ##-4a_0## rather than corresponding to the state with eigenvalue ##a_0##.
 
TSny said:
Your vectors are not normalized. The ##\sqrt 3## is not correct.

Note that what you are getting here is ##|\lambda_1⟩## and ##|\lambda_2⟩## expressed in the energy-eigenstate basis ##\{ |α⟩, |β⟩ \}##. So, you immediately have the expansion of ##|\lambda_1⟩##, say, in terms of ##|α⟩## and ##|β⟩## without further work.

Their answer ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}|α⟩ - \frac{2i}{\sqrt{5}}|β⟩## appears to correspond to the eigenstate of ##A## with eigenvalue ##-4a_0## rather than corresponding to the state with eigenvalue ##a_0##.

Got it, thanks so much for the clarification!

Normalization should be (where ##λ_{1,i}## is the ##i^{th}## component of ##|\lambda_1⟩ ##):
$$ || λ_1 || = \sqrt{\sum_{i=1}^N λ_{1,i} λ_{1,i}^*} = \sqrt{5}$$ (and likewise for ##|\lambda_2⟩##)

Thanks again!
 
OK. Good work!
 

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