Question 19 - quadratic probility problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a quadratic probability problem involving equations and values for n. Participants confirm the correctness of their calculations, particularly focusing on the equation 7/(n+7) = 2/5 and the implications of n being a non-integer. They explore the consequences of assuming n can take on fractional values, concluding that n must be a whole number. The conversation progresses to part (c) of the problem, where they derive a new equation and work through the algebra to reach a solution. Ultimately, they agree on the final answer for part (d) being 1/9, emphasizing the necessity for n to be an integer.
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a) (i) (x-14)(2x-7)
(ii) x = 14 or x = 3.5

b)
i) \frac{7}{n+7}
ii) Take n to be 8

\frac{7}{8+7}
\frac{7}{15} that DOESN'T round down to \frac{2}{5}

Is that all correct so far?
If so I will post the next (really hard) question)...

Thanks
 
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Why take n to be 8? Nothing is said about any value for n.
If 7/(n+7)= 2/5, SOLVE for n. What happens?
 
\frac{7}{n+7} = \frac{2}{5}

cross multiply!

\frac{35}{2n+14}

now where?
 
Um...you're leaving out the equality part of the equation. Solve for n.
 
Alternatively, you can note that you have 35/(2n + 14) = 1. 35 is odd. 2n + 14 is even. Strange, isn't it?
 
uh? How does that equal 1?
 
Look, you're essentially supposed to say, "Suppose Bill is right. Suppose 7/(n + 7) = 2/5. Then such and such would follow." Why would the conclusion be a problem?
 
\frac{35}{2n+14} = 1

now I need to get N on it's own (don't know how- please show). But I am guessing that n is greater than 3/5 so it CANT be right?
 
Multiply both sides of the equation by 2n + 14, so you end up with:

35 = 2n + 14
 
  • #10
silly me...

2n = 35-14
n = 10.5
EDIT: Which as a fraction is 10/1/2 which DOESN'T equal 2/5...am i right yet. I doubt that's right...
 
  • #11
You're getting there. What's the problem with n being 10.5. Look at your original assumptions. What are you tacitly assuming about the original n balls?
 
  • #12
you can't have 1/2 a ball... :bugeye:

am I right or am I right
 
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  • #13
Okay here is the rest of the question

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  • #14
Okay, what are your ideas on part (c)?
 
  • #15
(probability of taking white x probability of taking yellow) + (probability of taking yellow x probality of taking white)

Is that somthing to go from?

Thanks
 
  • #16
Yes, I'd go with that.
 
  • #17
I got it down now to \frac{14n}{2n^{2}+28n+98} = \frac{4}{9}

is that right so far?

EDIT: is the question is says -28n but I've got +28n


EDIT 2: O no it must be this so far

\frac{14n}{n^{2}+14n+49} = \frac{4}{9}
 
  • #18
got it!

\frac{4n^{2} + 56n + 196}{2} = \frac{14n * 9}{2}
\2n^{2} + 28n + 98 = 68n


\2n^{2} - 35n + 98 = 0
 
  • #19
and the answer to d must be 1/9
x must be 14 as you can't have 3.5 balls
 
  • #20
All sounds good to me, well done :approve:
 
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