Question about max stress on circular cross section with two moments

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The discussion revolves around the analysis of maximum stress on a hollow circular cross section subjected to two perpendicular bending moments. Participants explore the implications of these moments on stress distribution, comparing it to similar scenarios with rectangular cross sections.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes uncertainty regarding the location of maximum stress in a hollow circular cross section when subjected to two perpendicular bending moments.
  • Another participant explains that for a linear-elastic body with a symmetric cross-section, normal stress varies linearly from the neutral axis, suggesting that the maximum stress could occur at 45 degrees when considering the combined effects of the moments.
  • It is proposed that a certain amount of the two moments may cancel each other, leading to a single equivalent moment acting on the circular section.
  • A different perspective suggests finding the resultant moment and using the radius of the circle as a critical value, with the angle of the resultant moment determined through vector analysis.
  • A later reply indicates that the participant resolved their issue by calculating the resultant moment as a vector and applying it to the bending stress formula.

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Participants express varying approaches to the problem, with no consensus on the exact method for determining maximum stress in the hollow circular cross section under the given conditions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the analysis of the moments and their effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully resolve the mathematical steps involved in determining the resultant moment or the specific conditions under which maximum stress occurs. There are assumptions about the linear-elastic behavior and symmetry of the cross-section that are not explicitly stated.

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This is more of a conceptual understanding. HW problems given do not deal with this specific scenario
Relevant Equations
σmax = (M*c)/I
I couldn't fit in the title, but this is with a hollow circular cross section

So currently I am trying to figure what occurs when two, perpendicular bending moments are applied to a hollow circular cross section (one about the z axis, and the other about y). I know that if I was dealing with a square cross-section, the stress caused by bending moment will be greatest at the corners and you simply add the max bending stress caused by each moment. But, for a circular cross section, I am unsure of the location of when the stresses are greatest. I attached a photo of what I am visualizing, thanks.
 

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For a linear-elastic, prismatic body with symmetric cross-section, the normal stress varies linearly with the distance from the neutral axis and the flexure formula is simply sigma=M*y/I... Just as in the case of a rectangular cross-section, the two resulting sets of normal stresses (from the applied moments) can simply be added together - or subtracted if, for instance, one produces compression and the other tension...

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Assuming Mz=My and Iz=Iy, the highest stress would occur where y+z is a maximum... Without thinking too much about it, I would expect this to occur at 45 degrees.
 
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Certain amount of those two moments will cancel each other and you will have one single equivalent moment acting on your circular section.
 
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It is best to find the resultant moment and use the radius of the circle as the c value. The angle of the resultant moment can also be calculated using vector analysis.
 
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Thanks guys for all the tips! I figured it out shortly after, but yes like what everyone above said I had to find the resultant moment of both, which can simply be found be treating the two moments as vectors and utilizing magnitude formula sqrt(x^2 +y^2) to get the magnitude, and then plugging that resultant magnitude into the stress from bending moment formula.
 
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