QUESTION:[INDENT] Why do all forum topics cause online

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The discussion centers around the nature of arguments in online forums, questioning why topics often lead to disagreements. Participants argue that differing viewpoints and personal experiences naturally lead to discussions that may be perceived as arguments, but not all discussions result in conflict. Some emphasize that many threads exist where users agree, while others suggest that engaging arguments are what keep conversations lively. The conversation includes references to the Monty Python "Argument Clinic" sketch, highlighting the humorous aspect of misunderstandings about the term "argument." Overall, the thread illustrates the complexity of communication in forums, where the distinction between healthy debate and bickering can often blur.
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Why do all forum topics cause online


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Why do all forum topics cause online arguments?
 
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They don't, not even a tiny fraction.
 
that sounds like an argument

(Q: WHAT DO YOU WANT?
M: Well, I was told outside that...
Q: Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
M: What?
Q: Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, maloderous, pervert!
M: Look, I CAME HERE FOR AN ARGUMENT, I'm not going to just stand...!
Q: OH, oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse.
M: Oh, I see, well, that explains it.
Q: Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.
M: Oh, Thank you very much. Sorry.
Q: Not at all.
M: Thank You.)
 
Evo said:
They don't, not even a tiny fraction.

Yes they do! :smile:
 
All forum topics cause argument because everybody has a different point of view and has had different experiences in their lives. That is natural, and is not bad.
 
I think people are confusing discussions of different viewpoints with argument. I can point out tons of threads were everyone was in agreement.
 
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"If you think that "fact," not argument, rules intelligent thinking, consider these examples. At one point, the "great minds" of Western Europe firmly believed the Earth was flat. They had discussions about how obviously true this "fact" was."

"What is an argument? In academic writing, an argument is usually a main idea, often called a "claim" or "thesis statement," backed up with evidence that supports the idea. Ninety-nine percent of the time you will need to make some sort of claim and use evidence to support it,..."

99% of the time?--here??

http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/argument.html
 
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I'm taking the OP to mean argument as bickering and refusing to get along. All topics on a forum should create discussion. So asking "why do all forum topics create online discussions?" would be a rather meaningless question. So I stand with my assessment that the great majority of topics do not create arguments, at leat not on this forum, only a small fraction do. The majority don't end up in arguments in other forums I go to either.
 
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are we having an argument?
 
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No, we're not!
 
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So you are having an argument. Can I eavesdrop?

M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
 
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D H said:
So you are having an argument.
No, we're not.

Can I eavesdrop?
No you can't!
 
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Gokul43201 said:
No you can't!
Yes, I can!

I can even add some useless facts to further advance the argument. For example, 8.6766*1049 is an upper bound on the number of angels that can dance on the tip of a pin (source: Quantum Gravity Treatment of the Angel Density Problem).
 
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mr_whisk said:
QUESTION:

Why do all forum topics cause online arguments?

Because I'm always right and some people haven't figured this out yet.
 
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Evo said:
I think people are confusing discussions of different viewpoints with argument. I can point out tons of threads were everyone was in agreement.

Sure but these threads are of little interest and die quickly. It takes a good argument to give a thread legs.
 
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QUESTION:

Should trolls who have a post count of zero be prevented from creating new threads in the general discussion forum?
 
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Integral said:
Sure but these threads are of little interest and die quickly. It takes a good argument to give a thread legs.

M: I was just getting interested.
A: Sorry, the five minutes is up.
M: That was never five minutes!
A: I'm afraid it was.
M: No, it wasn't.
(pause)
A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
M: What?!
 
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M:Oh, all right. Well?
A: Well what?
M: That was never five minutes just then.
A: I told you can't argue with you unless you pay.
M: I just paid you.
A: When?
M: Just now!
A: No you didn't.
M: Yes I did.
 
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I think we should lock this thread. It's out of CONTROL!
 
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Evo said:
I think people are confusing discussions of different viewpoints with argument. I can point out tons of threads were everyone was in agreement.

Mk said:
All forum topics cause argument because everybody has a different point of view and has had different experiences in their lives. That is natural, and is not bad.
Here's an instance where two people agree, but are thinking of different definitions of the same word, "argument."
 
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JasonRox said:
I think we should lock this thread. It's out of CONTROL!

This was actually quite fun. I think most of us recognized the OP as a troll: someone with a null post count literally begging for an argument. So we accommodated him/her.

You are perhaps a bit too young to recognize the bits of the Monty Python Argument Clinic sketch quoted at various points in this thread. A link:
 
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Evo said:
I think people are confusing discussions of different viewpoints with argument. I can point out tons of threads were everyone was in agreement.

My personal theory on this is that no one wants to disagree with the GD mentor.
 
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D H said:
You are perhaps a bit too young to recognize the bits of the Monty Python Argument Clinic sketch
Who's the troll now?
 
  • #24
Mk said:
Who's the troll now?

According to Jason's blog, he just started advanced calculus a year ago. That makes him young (Bayesian inference). The skit in question first aired one day shy of 35 years ago and the show hasn't been in reruns for a long time. That makes most of us who saw it old ((Bayesian inference again). Where is the trolling?
 
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JasonRox said:
I think we should lock this thread. It's out of CONTROL!

You want to complain? Look at these shoes. Only had them two weeks, already there's holes in them.
 
  • #26
If you complain nothing happens, you might as well not bother.
 
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Math Jeans said:
My personal theory on this is that no one wants to disagree with the GD mentor.

and Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
 
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OTOH, she might well send us to take being-hit-on-the-head lessons.
 
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Evo--do you want to send us (me and who else?) to being-hit-on-the-head class?


(now, be honest!)

_________________

(or, was that remedial being-hit-on-the-head class?)

____________________________

H: No, no, no. Hold your head like this, then go Waaah. Try it again.
M: uuuwwhh!
H: Better, Better, but Waah, Waah! Put your hand there.
M: No.
H: Now..
M: Waaaaah!
H: Good, Good! That's it.
 
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