Question on current flow through polarized capacitors

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of current flow through polarized capacitors, particularly focusing on the charging process, the role of the dielectric, and the implications of polarity. Participants explore theoretical aspects and practical considerations related to the operation of these components in circuits.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the negative plate of a polarized capacitor must be fully charged before current can pass to the positive plate.
  • One participant asserts that the dielectric holds the charge, not the plates, and emphasizes the importance of polarity for electrolytic capacitors.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about whether a polarized capacitor can fully charge without discharging through the positive terminal.
  • One response clarifies that a polarized capacitor must be connected correctly to avoid damage, highlighting the risks of incorrect polarity.
  • It is noted that all capacitors charge and discharge through both plates, with electrolytic capacitors having a thin insulating layer that can be damaged by reverse voltage.
  • A participant inquires about the flow of current through the capacitor when voltage is applied, questioning whether the dielectric must charge first.
  • Another participant explains that DC current charges the capacitor and does not pass through it, while AC voltages can pass through capacitors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the charging process of polarized capacitors and the role of the dielectric. There is no consensus on whether current can flow through the capacitor or if it must charge the dielectric first, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on assumptions about the behavior of capacitors under different voltage conditions, and the discussion does not resolve the specifics of current flow versus charging dynamics.

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If a current enters the negative terminal of a polarized capacitors, does the negative plate have to be fully charged before it passes through to the positive plate.
 
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If a current enters the negative terminal of a polarized capacitors, does the negative plate have to be fully charged before it passes through to the positive plate.

No, the plates do not get charged at all. It is the dielectric that holds the charge and it is charged by the difference in voltage between the plates.

Polarity is only important because electrolytic capacitors need it to be the right way around to form the dielectric.
 
so if I understand this properly, a polarized capacitor can fully charge without discharging through the positive terminal.
 
Absolutely not.

It is just that a polarized capacitor must not be connected with the + terminal negative with respect to the - terminal.
They are often used where there is a DC voltage present and this must be connected the right way around.
They can explode in a very spectacular and messy way if you do it the wrong way.
 
Any kind of capacitor charges through both plates and also discharges through both plates.

The electrolytic capacitors have a very thin insulating layer on Aluminium which can be destroyed by electrolytic action if you put a reversed voltage on the capacitor.

They are quite rugged and you can put an alternating voltage on them, but it is essential that they do not have a steady DC voltage of the wrong polarity on them.

This coating is not part of the charge applied to the capacitor. The charge is actually in the coating which acts as a dielectric.
 
Thank you for the response, it has been very helpful. But if a voltage is applied to the capacitor, will the current flow directly through the capacitor, or will the voltage have to charge the dielectric before the current can pass through.
 
The DC current only goes into the capacitor to charge it. When you discharge the capacitor, it comes back out again.
It does not really "pass through" the capacitor.

This applies to any capacitor.

The charge on the capacitor eventually gives the capacitor a voltage on it equal to the applied voltage and at that time no more charging current flows into the capacitor. You can take the capacitor and put it away and the charge will still be there.
When you connect it to a conductor between the plates of the capacitor, current will flow out of the capacitor into the conductor. If you leave it there long enough, there will be no more current flowing and the capacitor voltage will drop to zero.

Electrolytic capacitors behave exactly like other capacitors except that if there is a dc voltage present it should be the right way around.

What might not be obvious is that AC voltages and currents can pass through capacitors while DC voltages and currents cannot pass through them.
 

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