Question on linearity of Lorentz transformations

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The discussion centers on the linearity of Lorentz transformations in Special Relativity, challenging the traditional derivations that assume linearity based on the principle of relativity and uniform motion. Participants reference J. Aharoni's work, which presents a non-linear transformation that maintains uniform motion, and highlight the inadequacies of existing derivations, including those by H. M. Schwartz and J. H. Field. The conversation emphasizes the need for a rigorous demonstration of linearity from first principles, with references to relevant literature such as Mariwalla's paper and the Currie-Jordan-Sudarshan theorem.

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  • #61
dx said:
2. Clock rates are uniform, i.e. intervals measured by clocks agree with the linear structure of V.

what is the meaning of time intervals agreeing with the linear structure of V.
 
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  • #62
facenian said:
It does when b_i=0 for i=0,1,2,3
You also have to set the c_i=0.
 
  • #63
Fredrik said:
You also have to set the c_i=0.

I don't see why. Setting b_i=0 for all i seems sufficient for T(0)=0
 
  • #64
facenian said:
I don't see why. Setting b_i=0 for all i seems sufficient for T(0)=0
Your function isn't smooth, or even defined for all x, because of the x in the denominator.
 
  • #65
I just started looking at the articles referenced on page 1. I haven't looked at George's reference yet (because it's not an online article), but all the others look interesting, especially the one atyy posted. It seems that the assumptions in my post #56 are much stronger than they need to be. I think I'm going to have to read that whole article soon.
 
  • #66
facenian said:
what is the meaning of time intervals agreeing with the linear structure of V?

If A - B = C - D, then a clock carried along AB will measure the same interval as it would if it were carried along CD. If A - B = λ(C - D), then a clock carried along AB will measure λ times the interval it would measure along CD.
 
  • #67
dx said:
If A - B = C - D, then a clock carried along AB will measure the same interval as it would if it were carried along CD. If A - B = λ(C - D), then a clock carried along AB will measure λ times the interval it would measure along CD.

Thank you dx. The fist condition seems to be consequence of homogeneity, and if A-B is understood only as distance could be consequence of isotropy.
 

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