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The discussion revolves around determining the distributions of the first and highest order statistics from a sample drawn from a continuous uniform distribution, where the sample size follows a specific discrete distribution. The scope includes theoretical aspects of probability and statistical distributions, particularly focusing on order statistics.

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  • One participant presents a problem involving the distribution of the first and highest order statistics from a uniform distribution, seeking assistance in solving it.
  • Another participant questions the initial post's nature, suggesting it resembles a homework problem and asks what the original poster has attempted so far.
  • There is a claim that the distribution of order statistics is Binomial, based on the idea of success and failure regarding values being less than or greater than a certain threshold.
  • A participant provides a formula for the maximum order statistic, indicating that the probability can be expressed as the product of individual probabilities raised to the power of n, and suggests taking the expectation with respect to N.
  • Another participant refines the previous claim about the maximum order statistic, emphasizing the independence of the samples and providing a formula for the cumulative distribution function of the maximum.
  • A participant proposes a formula for the minimum order statistic, suggesting a relationship involving the cumulative distribution function and the probability of exceeding a certain value.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of the distribution of order statistics, with some asserting a Binomial nature while others challenge this perspective. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing viewpoints presented.

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Participants have not fully explored the implications of their assumptions regarding independence and the specific distributions involved, leaving some mathematical steps and definitions unaddressed.

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Suppose a sample of random size N is taken from the continuous uniform(0, θ)
distribution, and N has a discrete distribution with p.m.f.

P (N = n) = 1/(n! (e − 1) ) for n = 1, 2, 3, . . . .

Determine the distribution of the
i) first order statistic (the minimum) of X1 , X2, . . . , XN .
ii) highest order statistic (the maximum) of X1, X2, . . ., XN .

Please help me to solve this problem.
 
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Sounds like homework. What have you tried? What do you know in general about the distribution of order statistics?
 
Generally the distribution of Xi in a order statistic is Binomial. Isn't it ? because given a value 'a' Xi is either Xi < a or Xi>=a. It is like a success failure.
 
To get you started, P[max<=x|N=n] = P[X1<=x,...,Xn<=x]=P[X1<=x]^n, then simply take the expectation wrt N.
 
Sunil12 said:
Generally the distribution of Xi in a order statistic is Binomial. Isn't it ? because given a value 'a' Xi is either Xi < a or Xi>=a. It is like a success failure.

Not quite. If you know that

[tex] P(X_n \le a)[/tex]

([itex]X_n[/itex] is the largest order statistic) then you know that ALL the other values are less than or equal to a, so

[tex] P(X_n \le a) = P(X1 \le a \text{ and } X2 \le a \text{ and } \cdots \text{ and } Xn \le a)<br /> = \left(P(X \le a)\right)^n = F(a)^n[/tex]

by independence. To work with the minimum start with

[tex] P(X_{(1)} > a)[/tex]

and think about what it means for the smallest item in the sample to be larger than some value.
 
FX1(a) = 1 - P(X1 > a)

which will essentially be 1 - (1 - Fx(x))n

Right ?
 

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