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let R be a non-commutative ring and D(R) denotes the set of zero-divisors of the ring . Suppose that z^{2} =0 for any z \in D(R) . prove that D(R) is an ideal of R.
The discussion revolves around the properties of zero-divisors in a non-commutative ring, specifically examining whether the set of zero-divisors, denoted D(R), forms an ideal of the ring R under the condition that for any zero-divisor z in D(R), z² = 0. The conversation touches on definitions, assumptions, and various arguments related to the nature of zero-divisors and rings.
Participants express disagreement regarding the definitions of zero-divisors and the nature of rings. There is no consensus on the definitions being used for the discussion, and the proof regarding D(R) being an ideal remains contested.
Participants note the lack of clarity in definitions of zero-divisors and rings, which may affect the discussion. The conversation reflects a variety of perspectives on these foundational concepts without resolving the ambiguities.
Martin Rattigan said:There are always problems with definitions when it comes to rings. There seem to be two definitions of zero divisor in general use. The first is that a zero divisor is something that is a left zero divisor or a right zero divisor, the second that a zero divisor is something that is a left zero divisor and a right zero divisor.
Both normally exclude zero, but this seems to be only so its easy to talk about rings "without zero divisors", so it's no hardship to allow zero a status of honorary zero divisor for the purpose of the problem - but apart from zero, which of the above definitions are we supposed to assume?
Also there were always disgreements about the exact definition of a ring. When I was alive, it was generally an abelian group under + and a groupoid under . with . distributing over + from both sides - and nothing more. Then some (most?) algebra books would state very early that they would only consider associative rings and sometimes only associative rings with a 1. Now Wiki has two slightly different definitions in different articles. One states that a ring should be a monoid under . but carries on to say that it may actually not be.
In view of the general confusion - what definition of "ring" should we assume for the purposes of this problem?
Martin Rattigan said:If z,z'\in D then because R is associative and z'z\in D, {(z+z')zz'z=z^2z'z+(z'z)^2=0}. Hence (z+z')\in D unless zz'z=0.
But if zz'z=0, (z+z')z'z=0. Hence (z+z')\in D unless z'z=0.
But if z'z=0, (z+z')z=0. Hence (z+z')\in D unless z=0.
But if z=0, (z+z')\in D.
So in all cases, (z+z')\in D.
How so?rasmhop said:These cases can be done a little simpler by noting that if z and z' are distinct elements in D, then z-z'\not=0 and:
(z+z')(z-z') = z^2 - z'^2 = 0-0=0.
xixi said:let R be a non-commutative ring.
Landau said:How so?