Questions on functions and supremums and infimums.

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The discussion centers on the properties of functions and their inverses, specifically addressing whether certain conditions hold when the composition of two functions is the identity function. It is established that for a function to have an inverse, it must be both one-to-one and onto, which leads to the conclusion that g is not equal to f^-1 in the provided example. Additionally, the boundedness of the function f(x) = cos(x) + sqrt(3)sin(x) is confirmed, with its supremum identified as 2 and the infimum as -1 - sqrt(3). The method of proving the supremum involves demonstrating that no value exceeds 2, while the approach to finding the infimum is also discussed. Lastly, the irrationality of the decimal expansion of natural numbers is questioned, emphasizing the characteristics of rational numbers.
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1)let g:B->A f:A->B be functions, and gof is the identity function, prove/disprove the following:
g=f^-1;f is onto;f is 1-1;g is onto;g is 1-1.
iv'e showed that the first the third and the last are correct, and the others are wrong, am i right?

2)prove that f(x)=cos(x)+sqrt(3)sin(x) is a bounded function and find its supremum and infimum.

well to prove that it's a bounded function was easy, it's bounded by:
-1-sqrt(3)<=f(x)<=1+sqrt(3)
now to find the supremum and infimum, the supremum is 2, and i have proven it this way:
first we need to show that it's an upper bound, i.e cos(x)+sqrt(3)sinx<=2
we have 2-sqrt(3)sin(x)>=1 and we can suppose that cos(x) is positive, bacause the upper bound should be greater also from the least value of f(x) which can be obtained when cos(x)<0, so we can suppose that cos(x)>0 (is this assumption valid?) then we have sqrt(1-sin^2x)<=2-sqrt(3)sin(x) 1-sin^2x<=4+3sin^2x-4sqrt(3)sin(x)
4sin^2x-4sqrt(3)sin(x)+3>=0
2sin^2x-sqrt3)^2>=0 which is ofcourse correct.

now we need to show that for every c>=f(x) 2<c, (in order to show that's least upper bound), so we suppose that c<2, then c>=cos(x)+sqrt(3)sin(x)
again we assume cos(x)>0 so we have c^2-2csqrt(3)sin(x)+3sin^2(x)>=1-sin^2x 4sin^2x-2sqrt3sin(x)+c^2-1>=0 [/tex]\delta=4*3c-16c^2+16=-4c^2+16<=0[/tex] so we have (2-c)(2+c)<=0 c>=2 or c<=-2
but this clearly contradicts our assumptions, is my appraoch correct?


p.s
just something I am interested about, how do you prove that 0.123456789101112... (all the natural numbers) is irrational?
 
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It is known that the decimal expansion of any rational number is eventually repeating.
 
what about the other two questions?
 
loop quantum gravity said:
1)let g:B->A f:A->B be functions, and gof is the identity function, prove/disprove the following:
g=f^-1;f is onto;f is 1-1;g is onto;g is 1-1.
iv'e showed that the first the third and the last are correct, and the others are wrong, am i right?
In order that a function HAVE an inverse, it must be both 1-1 and onto, and its inverse must be both 1-1 and onto. However, consider this example: A= {a, b}, B= {x,y,z} . f(a)= x, f(b)= y. g(x)= a, g(y)= b, g(z)= b. then gof(a)= g(x)= a, gof(b)= g(y)= b so gof is the identity function. Is g= f-1? What about the other questions?

2)prove that f(x)=cos(x)+sqrt(3)sin(x) is a bounded function and find its supremum and infimum.

well to prove that it's a bounded function was easy, it's bounded by:
-1-sqrt(3)<=f(x)<=1+sqrt(3)
now to find the supremum and infimum, the supremum is 2, and i have proven it this way:
first we need to show that it's an upper bound, i.e cos(x)+sqrt(3)sinx<=2
we have 2-sqrt(3)sin(x)>=1 and we can suppose that cos(x) is positive, bacause the upper bound should be greater also from the least value of f(x) which can be obtained when cos(x)<0, so we can suppose that cos(x)>0 (is this assumption valid?) then we have sqrt(1-sin^2x)<=2-sqrt(3)sin(x) 1-sin^2x<=4+3sin^2x-4sqrt(3)sin(x)
4sin^2x-4sqrt(3)sin(x)+3>=0
2sin^2x-sqrt3)^2>=0 which is ofcourse correct.

now we need to show that for every c>=f(x) 2<c, (in order to show that's least upper bound), so we suppose that c<2, then c>=cos(x)+sqrt(3)sin(x)
again we assume cos(x)>0 so we have c^2-2csqrt(3)sin(x)+3sin^2(x)>=1-sin^2x 4sin^2x-2sqrt3sin(x)+c^2-1>=0 [/tex]\delta=4*3c-16c^2+16=-4c^2+16<=0[/tex] so we have (2-c)(2+c)<=0 c>=2 or c<=-2
but this clearly contradicts our assumptions, is my appraoch correct?
Actually, in this case, the sup and inf are the maximum and minimum values so taking the derivative and setting it equal to 0 is a good start.
You can also note that the "root mean square" of the coefficients, 1 and \sqrt{3} is \sqrt{1+ 3}= 2. Factoring out a 2, you have f(x)= 2(\frac{1}{2}cos(x)+ \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}sin(x)). Now use the fact that sin(x+ a)= sin(a)cos(x)+ cos(a)sin(x). Here, we have sin(a)= \frac{1}{2} and cos(a)= \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} so a= \frac{\pi}{6}.
f(x)= 2 sin(x+ \frac{\pi}{6})
Aren't the max and min (sup and inf) of that obvious?
 
In order that a function HAVE an inverse, it must be both 1-1 and onto, and its inverse must be both 1-1 and onto. However, consider this example: A= {a, b}, B= {x,y,z} . f(a)= x, f(b)= y. g(x)= a, g(y)= b, g(z)= b. then gof(a)= g(x)= a, gof(b)= g(y)= b so gof is the identity function. Is g= f-1? What about the other questions?
no bacuse we don't have a reverse image for f(g(z)) doesn't equal z.
so it means we don't have it so still i think that f isn't onto, but it's 1-1, cause:
if f(x1)=y1=y2=f(x2) in B, then x1=g(f(x1))=g(f(x2))=x2.
from the example you showed clearly g isn't one to one, but it's onto, so i guess i need to prove that g is onto.
then for every x in A there exists y in B such that g(y)=x when y=f(x).
thanks, halls.
 
halls, am i right in what i wrote?
im having second thoughts about it. (-:
 
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