Quick question about inverter TX order wrt mains

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The discussion revolves around the use of isolation transformers in switch mode power supplies (SMPS) and the implications of using non-linear components on mains electricity. Participants explore the operational characteristics of SMPS, including rectification, high-frequency oscillation, and the effects of diode behavior during switching events. The conversation includes technical inquiries about circuit components and their functions.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether it is common practice to use an isolation transformer between mains and the rectifier, with some asserting that it is not typical.
  • There is a discussion about the operation of SMPS, including the rectification and high-frequency oscillation processes, with references to specific circuit components and their roles.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the behavior of diodes during reverse bias, particularly regarding stored charge and induced voltages due to leakage inductance.
  • Some participants clarify that the high-frequency switching in SMPS allows for smaller components compared to line frequency operation.
  • There is a debate about the nature of voltage changes during diode switching, with differing opinions on whether the transition is a "snap" or a "slide." Some participants suggest that the reverse recovery time (TRR) is not significant at mains frequency.
  • Questions arise about specific circuit components, such as capacitors and inductors, and their functions in filtering and feedback mechanisms within the SMPS design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the commonality of using isolation transformers in SMPS applications and the implications of diode behavior during switching. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of diode operation and the interpretation of voltage transitions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the technical details of diode behavior and the role of various components in the circuit, indicating a reliance on intuition rather than systematic analysis. There are references to specific circuit designs and operational principles that may not be universally applicable.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in power supply design, electrical engineering, and the operational characteristics of switch mode power supplies may find this discussion relevant.

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tim9000 said:
Damn-it, I meant bottom right. Sorry. I was typing that ad hoc and I should have looked at it again, does the 5V 2A output actually go to anything external? Sorry about the mistake.

Yes it's a 5V output ... the PSU has 5V and 12V outputs

tim9000 said:
I'm still a bit confused: So for Vfb to increase (slowing down the PWM cycle) does that mean that the opto is going open circuit, or shorting to ground?

it's varying between those to maximum conditions ... probably reaches neither of them
tim9000 said:
What's going on with the comparitors? Like when the opto is shorting to ground does that mean that the Vref and VCC is flowing to ground and so the PWM comparitor is grounded?
So pins 6 and 3 are what determines Vref and VCC? What's going on there?

see previous comment
and jony130 has answered most of the rest :smile:Dave
 

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