Simplifying Factorials: Rules and Examples

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In summary, The conversation discusses finding the factorial of a large number and simplifying it using logarithms. The use of Stirling's formula is recommended as a way to approximate the factorial. The conversation also mentions using a calculator to solve for the factorial and how to replicate the answer using a normal calculator. Additionally, a typo is pointed out in the conversation.
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I need to figure out the following factorial

[tex] \frac{297!}{98! * 199!} [/tex]

then take the logarithim of that

Is there a rule that I can use to simplify the equation and get the same result?

,

I did another example where I used

[tex] \frac{310!}{2!*299!} [/tex]
and I figured it out to be
(310*309*308*307*306*305*304*303*302*301*300) / 2!

but if i were to apply the same rule
I'd need to do 98 multiplications starting from 297 going down to 199
and that'd take way too long in my calculator. i.e 297*296*295...200 / 98!

please help, I need some rules to follow
i couldn't find any anywhere,
 
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Stirling's formula:

[tex]
n! \approx \sqrt{2 \, \pi n} \left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^{n}, \ n >> 1
[/tex]
 
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Could you be more precise on what you mean by "figure out"?
 
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Hurkyl said:
Could you be more precise on what you mean by "figure out"?



well I used a big number calculator that let's me use factorials up to 500!,

found out the answer to be 45.4 or something

then tried to replicate that answer on my normal calculator by guessing that

310!/299! is actually 300!*301!*...310!, then divided that by 2! which is equal to 2,

and it was the same answer, 45.4


thanks to that other guy,
I forgot about stirlings approximations :P
 
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vorcil said:
well I used a big number calculator that let's me use factorials up to 500!,

found out the answer to be 45.4 or something

then tried to replicate that answer on my normal calculator by guessing that

310!/299! is actually 300!*301!*...310!, then divided that by 2! which is equal to 2,

and it was the same answer, 45.4
Probably a typo, but 310!/299! = [310*309*308*307*306*305*304*303*302*301*300*299!]/299!.

The 299! factors cancel and you're left with 310*309*308*307*306*305*304*303*302*301*300.
vorcil said:
thanks to that other guy,
I forgot about stirlings approximations :P
 

1. What is a factorial?

A factorial is a mathematical function that calculates the product of all positive integers from 1 up to a given number. It is represented by an exclamation mark (!). For example, 5! (read as "five factorial") is equal to 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 120.

2. How do you calculate factorials?

To calculate a factorial, you can use the formula n! = n x (n-1) x (n-2) x ... x 3 x 2 x 1, where n is the given number. Alternatively, you can use a calculator or a computer program to find the factorial of a number.

3. What are factorials used for?

Factorials are used in various mathematical and scientific fields, such as probability, statistics, and combinatorics. They can also be applied in practical situations, such as calculating the number of possible combinations or arrangements of objects.

4. What is the largest factorial that can be calculated?

The largest factorial that can be calculated depends on the computing power available. With a standard calculator, the largest factorial that can be calculated is around 69!, which is approximately 1.711224524x10^98. However, with a more powerful computer, larger factorials can be calculated.

5. Are there any special properties of factorials?

Yes, there are several special properties of factorials, such as the fact that 0! = 1 and 1! = 1. Another important property is that n! is always divisible by all positive integers less than or equal to n. This property is commonly used in probability and statistics calculations.

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