Radioactive Detector - Get Sensor & Price Info

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on finding a suitable sensor for detecting radioactive particles, specifically looking for small sensors that can be integrated into a PCB. Participants explore various types of detectors, including Geiger tubes and alternative technologies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about small sensors for detecting radioactive particles and requests brand names and prices.
  • Another participant suggests a Geiger tube as a potential solution.
  • A list of Geiger tubes from LND Inc. is provided, noting that the smallest tubes are less than 5.3 mm in diameter, with larger tubes being more efficient.
  • There is a query about other types of sensors besides Geiger tubes that could be used for detecting radioactivity.
  • A participant mentions that Geiger tubes require about 500 volts to operate and suggests using solid-state PIN diodes as an alternative, specifically a Hamamatsu PIN diode that can function without a scintillator.
  • Another suggestion is made to consider the radiation ionization chamber from a smoke detector, which is PCB mountable and inexpensive.
  • Concerns are raised about the sensitivity of ionization chambers to radioactivity without the radioactive source and the challenges of converting ionization current to a digital format.
  • It is noted that Geiger-Mueller tubes and PIN diodes have pulse outputs that require minimal external electronics for interfacing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the types of sensors available for detecting radioactive particles, with no consensus on a single best solution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal choice of sensor.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific applications for sensor choice, as well as unresolved questions about the sensitivity and digital conversion of ionization chambers.

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Hi!
I am looking for a sensor that can sense radioactive particle. It will alert when the amount of the radioactive particle in air is high. I found many radioactive detector, but I need is the sensor in the detector.

Can someone suggests for me this kind of sensor (as small as possible)?

Hope:brand name and price!

Thanks!
 
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Here is a list of Geiger tubes from LND inc (Oceanside, NY). I have used their smallest one a while ago. The smallest ones are less than 5.3 mm diameter. The larger ones are more efficient.
http://www.lndinc.com/products/category/8/
Bob S
 
beside Geiger tube does any sensor can use to sense radioactive particle?I look for sensor as small as possible that I can fix it on my PCB.
 
Bob S said:
Here is a list of Geiger tubes from LND inc (Oceanside, NY). I have used their smallest one a while ago. The smallest ones are less than 5.3 mm diameter. The larger ones are more efficient.
http://www.lndinc.com/products/category/8/
Bob S

Thanks! I will try this.
 
ws0619 said:
Thanks! I will try this.
The Geiger tube requires about 500 volts to operate. Some large-area solid state PIN diodes can be used as cosmic ray / radioactivity detectors.. This Hamamatsu PIN diode can be used without a scintillator.
http://sales.hamamatsu.com/assets/pdf/parts_S/S2744-08_etc.pdf
Bob S
 
Depending on your application, perhaps you could use the radiation ionization chamber from a smoke detector. PCB mountable and all of about $7
 
The ionization-type smoke detector works on the basis of a very small ionization current created by a radioactive source inside the detector. Smoke ions in the air reduce the current in the chamber. So the two issues are 1) How sensitive is the ion chamber to radioactivity in the air if the radioactive source is removed, and 2) How difficult is it to convert the ionization current into a digital format? A good idea of the volume and current in ionization chambers can be obtained by looking at the design of pocket ionization chambers:
http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/dosimeters/pocketchamdos.htm
On the other hand, the Geiger-Mueller tubes and PIN diodes have pulse outputs, and require minimal external electronics to interface to other circuits.
Bob S
 

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