Radius and Interval of Convergence

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The discussion focuses on finding the radius and interval of convergence for two series: [(n+1)/n]^n * (x^n) and ln(n)(x^n), both starting at n=1. For the first series, applying the root test leads to a radius of convergence (R) of 1 and an interval of convergence (I) of -1 < x < 1, with divergence at the endpoints. The second series also yields R = 1 and I = -1 < x < 1, confirmed using L'Hospital's rule. Participants clarify the importance of stating divergence correctly when evaluating the series at the endpoints. The conversation emphasizes the application of convergence tests and the proper interpretation of results.
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Homework Statement


Find the radius and interval of convergence for the two series:

1) [(n+1)/n]^n * (x^n), series starting at n=1.

2) ln(n)(x^n), series starting at n=1.


Homework Equations


You're usually supposed to root or ratio your way through these.


The Attempt at a Solution



1) First, combining the whole thing and putting to the nth power:
[( (n+1) x) / n] ^ n

then using the root test yields

((n+1)/n) * x

but (n+1)/n doesn't converge. The book still gives R = 1 and I = -1 < x < 1, though... how?

2) Uhhh not too sure... I just ratio tested it and got:

(ln(n+1) / ln(n)) * x

and the ln(n+1) / ln(n) doesn't converge. What do?

Thanks.
 
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Hip2dagame said:

Homework Statement


Find the radius and interval of convergence for the two series:

1) [(n+1)/n]^n * (x^n), series starting at n=1.

2) ln(n)(x^n), series starting at n=1.


Homework Equations


You're usually supposed to root or ratio your way through these.


The Attempt at a Solution



1) First, combining the whole thing and putting to the nth power:
[( (n+1) x) / n] ^ n

then using the root test yields

((n+1)/n) * x

but (n+1)/n doesn't converge.

Are you sure about that? Write it as$$
1 +\frac 1 n$$
The book still gives R = 1 and I = -1 < x < 1, though... how?

2) Uhhh not too sure... I just ratio tested it and got:

(ln(n+1) / ln(n)) * x

and the ln(n+1) / ln(n) doesn't converge. What do?

Thanks.

For the second one think about L'Hospital's rule.
 
Ok so giving this a second try, for the first one,
using the root test, we end up with

(1 + (1/n)) * x,

so the limit is absolute value of x, which must be less than 1 to converge, so we set the equation

-1< x< 1

plugging -1 into x we get , (-1)^n * (1+(1/n))^n , a diverging alternating series
plugging 1 into x we get (1)^n (1+ (1/n))^n, which diverges,

so radius of convergence (R) = 1, and interval of con (I) = -1<x<1, open interval.

For number 2,
using LHospital's rule, limit is once again x, abs val of x is less than 1 for convergence so
-1 < x < 1 for convergence,

then plugging -1 in for x, we get (-1)^n * ln(n) which diverges,
plugging in 1 for x, we get (1)^n * ln(n), which diverges,

so R = 1, and I is the open interval -1 < x < 1.

Amiriteuguise? thanks for any help.
 
It looks like you have the idea. Just remember that it is the ratio test or root test you are using, and when you say, for example, "then plugging -1 in for x, we get (-1)^n * ln(n) which diverges", what you really want to say is that (-1)^n * ln(n) doesn't converge to zero, hence the series ##\sum_{n=1}^\infty (-1)^n\ln n## diverges.

And who/what is Amiriteuguise? Something to do with this thread?
 

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