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Raising the World's IQ

  1. Dec 8, 2008 #1

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    From the New York Times, Dec. 4, 2008

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/opinion/04kristof.html

    The iodine suppliment program started here in Canada with the Lions, the Rotary Club and other charitable organizations donating the time and resource to the poorer nations of the world.
     
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    i wasn't aware of iodine being a strong factor in IQ. B-12 is another one.

    bigger issues may be cultural, though, like consanguinous marriage. check out this map and see if you think there is correlation. http://www.consang.net/index.php/Global_prevalence
     
  4. Dec 8, 2008 #3

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    That or big cultural issues are a direct result of the lack of micro-nutrients.

    Edit: There may be cultural reasons for consanguinity but I think it may be the case that people can't afford to move out of village let alone out of country to mix it up. So, what's available to marry is what's available. I'm pretty sure I saw an article about a woman marrying a goat or a cow in India so you see what I mean. If you look at the map you see all this consanguinity taking place in some of the least economically stable regions of the world. This makes me think the condition is a result of immobility of the people due to poverty. With the potential offered by an overall boost to their IQ in those regions, its quite possible we'd see those numbers decrease as more and more people became students, business owners or tradespeople... etc...
     
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  5. Dec 10, 2008 #4

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    A look at iodine... this is a PDF which can be downloaded from

    http://www.jpands.org/vol11no4/millerd.pdf


    Extrathyroidal Benefits of Iodine
    DonaldW. Miller, Jr., M.D.

     
  6. Dec 10, 2008 #5

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    A couple of years ago, I heard about the impact of iodine in Afghanistan during a presentation by Dr. Peter Salama MD - Chief, Child Survival and Immunization, UNICEF. He mentioned identifying some strange symptoms in Afghan patients, which had not seen in modern times in the industrialized nations. Many people, particularly children, where severely malnourished and were suffering from scurvy and other diseases due to vitamin deficiencies. Iodine was also one critical element that was lacking, and that had been a chronic problem in Afghanistan.

    In the early part of this decade in Afghanistan, the following statics were measured:
    • Under five mortality: 257/1000 LBs (1 in 4 children die by age of 5 - diarrhea kills 1/3 of this population, measles about 1/4)
    • Infant mortality: 165/1000 LBs (16% infant mortality)
    • Maternal mortality ratio: high
    • Malnutrition prevalence: high
    • Incidence communicable diseases: high
    • Life Expectancy: 45 – 47 years

    Some progress has been made. Iodized salt is being distributed, but there are significant problems with distribution in remote areas, such as Badakhshan and areas where Taliban and al Qaida operate. And there is the problem of government corruption.
     
  7. Dec 10, 2008 #6

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    I posted here about the impact of iodine on IQ 4-5 years ago. It's long been known, but not much has been done in impoverished countries.
     
  8. Dec 11, 2008 #7

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    I heard about this sort of program when I was a kid. Its on-going today even in developed countries like Switzerland.

    http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/82/2/388

    Pakistan is still trying to update in this regard.

    Social Marketing Helps Eliminate Iodine Deficiency in Pakistan
    http://www.psi.org/resources/pubs/salt.html

    Looks like Americans have been into the frey from the start

    http://www.saltinstitute.org/37.html

    Japan used to be ok for iodine since they eat kelp and other seafood high in iodine content. This is changing with a move toward western dietary practices.
     
  9. Dec 11, 2008 #8

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    Thank you Astronuc

    Looks like UNICEF is working on iodizing Afghanistan

    http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cach...+iodizing+afganistan&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca

    I don't see where a rise in communicable diseases is related to iodine deficiency. Although it is mentioned on several pages that iodine does bolster the immune system.

    I think that we humans, being spawned in the ocean like pretty well all living creatures, will experience this deficiency more the further we get from the ocean.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine
     
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  10. Dec 11, 2008 #9

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    Is it even possible to get that much from natural foods alone?
     
  12. Dec 22, 2008 #11

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    *fixed*

    edit: and i just skimmed that article evo, but one anecdote i wanted to mention. i've been told by someone that works in the food industry that although iodized table salt is common in the US now, salt in prepared foods is not required to be iodized. perhaps someone else here with some inside knowledge could comment (i'm not even sure how to go about verifying that), but considering that more americans are now relying on manufactured instead of home-cooked meals, it could add considerably to the deficiency problem.
     
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  14. Dec 22, 2008 #13

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    That's discussed in the article. I know it's long, but it's very informative.

    Thanks for fixing the link!
     
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    ah, thank you! i gave up too soon. :redface:

     
  16. Dec 22, 2008 #15

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    Am I supposed to know why my post was deleted?
     
  17. Dec 22, 2008 #16

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    You didn't receive the message I sent you? Your link wasn't to a valid source.
     
  18. Dec 23, 2008 #17

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    Sorry everyone. I linked you to a nasty naturopathic doctor who's trying to sell salt.

    At one time it was worth a pretty penny. Today, not so much... yet anyway!

    I just found some iodized salt at a normal super market. Just as I went for it this Ismiley Muslim dude was buying Kosher Salt. I asked him why Kosher.... he said it wasn't as salty!!!
     
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