Ratio of matter to radiation density

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The discussion revolves around the ratio of matter to radiation density in the universe, specifically whether this ratio is constant or varies over time due to processes such as matter annihilation and radiation generation. The scope includes theoretical considerations and implications for cosmology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that as the universe expands, both radiation and matter densities decrease, but at different rates, with radiation density decreasing more rapidly than matter density.
  • One participant questions whether the total amount of matter and radiation in the universe is constant or varies due to annihilation processes.
  • Another participant suggests that the ratio of matter density to radiation density, when adjusted for the scale factor, is "fairly constant," but does not clarify what "fairly constant" entails.
  • A participant mentions a correlation between inertial mass density and the cosmological constant, suggesting implications for the acceleration of the universe if total matter density were not constant.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the appropriateness of discussing personal theories and references to self-published work within the forum guidelines.

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Participants express differing views on whether the ratio of matter to radiation density is constant or variable, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these perspectives.

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Limitations include the lack of consensus on the definition of "fairly constant" and the implications of matter annihilation on total densities, as well as the removal of references to personal theories that may not align with mainstream scientific discourse.

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Is the ratio of matter to radiation density constant in the universe? Or does it vary over time, as matter annihilates to radiation and vice-versa?
 
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As the universe expands, both radiation and matter "thin out", but at different rates. Expansion of the universe decreases the density of radiation more rapidly than it decreases the density of matter.

If ##a \left(t\right)## is the linear scale of the universe (so ##a \left(t\right)## increases as time ##t## increases), then the volume that a given amount of matter occupies is proportional to ##a \left(t\right)^3##, and thus matter densities scales as ##1/a \left(t\right)^3##. Radiation is made of photons, and photon density also scales as ##1/a \left(t\right)^3##, but the expansion of the universe also scales the wavelength by another factor of ##a \left(t\right)##, so radiation energy density scales as ##1/a \left(t\right)^4##.
 
Thank you for your reply. While I am aware of how matter and radiation vary with the scale factor, this is what I am trying to ascertain: is the total amount of matter and total amount of radiation in the universe constant, or does it vary because of annihilation of matter to radiation and vice-versa?
 
Let ##\rho_r \left(t\right)## be the density of radiation and ##\rho_m \left(t\right)## be the density of matter. I think that you are asking "Is

$$\frac{\rho_m \left(t\right) a\left(t\right)^3}{\rho_r \left(t\right) a \left(t\right)^4}$$

constant?"

I think that this ratio is now fairly constant.
 
Yes, that is what I am trying to ascertain. Could you please clarify what do you mean by "fairly constant"?

While I should not plug my own work, recently I published a paper online on dark energy where I argue for a correlation between inertial mass density and the cosmological constant. Thus, if total matter density were not to be constant, that would affect the rate of acceleration of the universe, and thereby provide a way to test the correlation. You may like to check out the paper at http://article.sapub.org/10.5923.j.astronomy.20140301.02.html
 
Ranku said:
While I should not plug my own work, recently I published a paper online on dark energy where I argue for a correlation between inertial mass density and the cosmological constant. Thus, if total matter density were not to be constant, that would affect the rate of acceleration of the universe, and thereby provide a way to test the correlation. You may like to check out the paper at http://article.sapub.org/10.5923.j.astronomy.20140301.02.html
Ranku,

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