RCL Circuit Analysis: Vr, Vl, Vc

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The discussion focuses on analyzing an RCL circuit with a current source of 5*cos(50t) for t>=0, a 5-ohm resistor, a 2 Henry inductor, and a 3 Farad capacitor in series. The calculated voltages across the resistor (Vr(t) = 25*cos(50t)), inductor (Vl(t) = -500sin(50t)), and capacitor (Vc(t) = (-250/3)sin(50t)) were derived using fundamental circuit equations. However, discrepancies arose when simulating the circuit in Multisim, particularly with the capacitor voltage showing 66.3mV p-p, indicating potential issues with the simulator's handling of instantaneous changes in current at t=0. The discussion suggests that traditional methods or Laplace transforms may be necessary for accurate transient analysis.

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Homework Statement



i(t) = 0 for t<0 and 5*cos(50t) for t>=0
Vc(0) = 0

Circuit is current source, 5 ohm resister, 2 Henry inductor, and 3 Farad capacitor in series.

Need to find Vr(t), Vl(t), and Vc(t), voltage across resistor, inductor, and capacitor.

Homework Equations



V= IR for resistor
V= L(di/dt) for inductor
V = 1/c(di/dt) for cap

The Attempt at a Solution


di/dt = -250sin(50t)

Resistor:

Vr(t) = 25*cos(50t)

Inductor:

Vl(t) = 2*-250sin(50t)
=-500sin(50t)

Cap:
Vc(t) = 1/3*-250sin(50t)
= (-250/3)sin(50t)

I ran the simulation on multisim and the numbers do not agree.

The voltage across the cap shows 66.3mV p-p
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ch1 = node between source and resistor
ch2 = node between resistor and inductor
ch3 = node between inductor and cap
ch4 = current probe 1mV/mA
traces are from top to bottom
 
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Something tells me that the simulator is not going to fair very well handling the circuit as described.

At t=0 the ideal current source is going to want to force the current to be 5A immediately. That's the result of it being a cosine function that kicks in at time t=0. But inductors don't like to change current immediately like that. The simulator might try to generate GV or TV levels of voltages across the inductor for the first instant, causing similarly ridiculous current spikes for the capacitor in the GA or TA range.
 
So my results for Vr and Vl seem reasonable but Vc seems like it should be 0.03sin(50t) so i am not sure i am using the right formula.
 
freezer said:
So my results for Vr and Vl seem reasonable but Vc seems like it should be 0.03sin(50t) so i am not sure i am using the right formula.

Those look reasonable for the steady-state values for those items, but misses the initial transient response for the reactive components that take place because of the instantaneous forced step in current at t=0.

If you've been introduced to Laplace transforms, that might be an easier approach to obtaining the response for the inductor voltage.
 
Laplace is not for a few more chapters...
 
freezer said:
Laplace is not for a few more chapters...

Aurgh. Then I guess you'll have to make do with a careful investigation of the differential equation for the inductor voltage by more traditional methods. The driving function for the current is not just 5cos(50t), but rather 5cos(50t)U(t), where U(t) is the unit step...
 

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