Moonbear said:
I think you just misunderstand how the term is used
I think we are just arguing semantics here. I have a different definition then yours, which doesn't make it any less or more correct.
The constant calling (to the point of being a pest) was an example, a little bit on the extreme side. I can't tell you how many times I've been in conversations with people who are like, "should I call her?... should I call her?... it's been a day"
And I tell them they have to play the game in the beginning. Many times people don't think they are being out of line calling once a day each day. They truly like the other individual and want to talk to them. I mean once a day doesn't sound pesky, but really, when you hardly know someone it is.
If you think of (at least the beginning stages) a relationship as a game, then I believe you better your odds. In a game the goal is to win. When you start dating, the goal is to win. In a game you make moves that better your odds to the prize. Some people have a twisted reality on what that prize should be, and other have an even more disturbing concept of acceptable moves. I think if you play the game and you are a decent person, which the OP seems to be, then there is nothing wrong with thinking of it in these terms. Afterall, shouldn't we be trying to better our probability of success with actions?
MoonBear said:
...plenty of immature people do that...it doesn't lead to any sort of healthy relationship
I definitely agree with you. I haven't really disagreed with anything you've said.
MoonBear said:
"Hey jailbird, ready for your conjugal visit?" If she laughs, you've made progress, if she glares at you like this -> then drop it. And if she blushes, leans over, kisses you and whispers a seductive answer in your ear, then take Zooby's advice!
By the way. I loved this advice. I mean, I would definitely not say "Hey jailbird, ready for your conjugal visit?". This really depends on the girl though. You should know what to say depending on them. Some people like to hear things straightforward. Such as, while making out and in the moment, just drop the question. "So do you want to go all the way?" (I wouldn't personally say that... cause that's not what I do. I'm straightforward with my terminology also, and some people can't pull that off. This will especially depend on the girl. Saying "So, do you want to have sex?" might make a girl upset, when she would rather hear it called love).
I think the important part of what you said is not the actual "one liner", but the "if she laughs, you've made progress". A laugh is a good thing! Almost always. A glare IS NOT. A blush is a sign of "give me affection". I usually take the cold shoulder as I'm giving her too much of what she wants, time to back off.
But back to the OP. rocketboy so what's up with you? You confused as hell? Got a gameplan (

couldn't resist)?