Real integral using Residue Theorem

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral ##\int_0^{2\pi} \frac{\sin \theta d\theta}{5-4\sin \theta}## using the Residue Theorem. Participants are exploring the conversion of the integral into a contour integral suitable for applying the theorem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of the integral into a contour integral and the identification of poles in the integrand. There are attempts to clarify the placement of terms in the integrand and the implications for finding residues.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the correctness of each other's approaches and interpretations of the Residue Theorem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the identification of poles and the structure of the integrand, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of potential missing poles and the need to account for all singular points in the function. Participants reference tools like Mathematica to verify their calculations, indicating a reliance on computational checks amidst the theoretical discussion.

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Homework Statement



Convert to suitable contour integral and use Cauchy's Residue Theorem to evaluate it

##\int_0^{2\pi} \frac{\sin \theta d\theta}{5-4\sin \theta}##

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Res ##f(z)_{z=z_0} = Res_{z=z_0} \frac{p(z)}{q(z)}=\frac{p(z_0)}{q'(z_0)}##

The Attempt at a Solution



## \displaystyle \int_0^{2\pi} \frac{\sin \theta d\theta}{5-4\sin \theta}=\oint_C \frac{(1/2i)(z-1/z)dz/iz}{5-4(z-1/z)}=\oint_C \frac{(z-1/z)dz}{8z^2-10z-8}##

The denominator has simple poles at ##z_1=5/8+\sqrt{89}/8## and ##z_2=5/8-\sqrt{89}/8## with z_2 being inside the unit circle hence

Res ##f(z)_{z=z_0} = Res_{z=z_0} \frac{z-1/z}{8z^2-10z-8}=\frac{z-1/z}{16z-10}|_{z=5/8-\sqrt{89}/8}##...?
 
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You got to move that 1/z downstairs. So write it as
I = \frac{-1}{2} \oint \frac{(z^2 -1) dz}{5z^2-2/i (z^3-z)}
 
bugatti79 said:
Not sure what you are suggesting. I have checked mine with Mathematica and it seems right.
Perhaps I am not applying the Theorem correctly?

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+((1/2i)(z-1/z)(1/iz))/(5-4(z-1/z))+=+(z-1/z)/(8z^2-10z-8)

Thanks

The point of residue calculus is that you need to find all the poles of the integrand. An easy find to way the poles is to write your integrand in the form of polynomial divided by polynomial. Now you are missing the pole at z=0, because you don't have a polynomial in the numerator.
 
clamtrox said:
The point of residue calculus is that you need to find all the poles of the integrand. An easy find to way the poles is to write your integrand in the form of polynomial divided by polynomial. Now you are missing the pole at z=0, because you don't have a polynomial in the numerator.

But I thought we find all the poles in the denominator and in this case it will be 2 poles because of quadratic...?
 
You got that entirely wrong and you're not missing it. It's still there just in the numerator. The objective is to find all the singular point of the function however it is written, numerator, denominator, polynomial, trig, special function, whatever, wereever they are and then by the Residue Theorem, an integral of the function over a closed contour where the function is single-valued and analytic except for issolated singular points like poles is 2pi i times the sum of the residues. Now it does make it look nicer if you put that 1/z factor in the denominator but just don't put it there right? Is that insulting? I mean by valid algebraic means. It's then easier to compute the residue by standard techniques.
 
bugatti79 said:
Not sure what you are suggesting. I have checked mine with Mathematica and it seems right.
Perhaps I am not applying the Theorem correctly?

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+((1/2i)(z-1/z)(1/iz))/(5-4(z-1/z))+=+(z-1/z)/(8z^2-10z-8)

Thanks

jackmell said:
You got that entirely wrong and you're not missing it. It's still there just in the numerator. The objective is to find all the singular point of the function however it is written, numerator, denominator, polynomial, trig, special function, whatever, wereever they are and then by the Residue Theorem, an integral of the function over a closed contour where the function is single-valued and analytic except for issolated singular points like poles is 2pi i times the sum of the residues. Now it does make it look nicer if you put that 1/z factor in the denominator but just don't put it there right? Is that insulting? I mean by valid algebraic means. It's then easier to compute the residue by standard techniques.

SO my original integrand in post #1 was correct as above link, the simple pole z=0 was in the numerator and the other two in the denominator

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=poles+(z-1/z)/(8z^2-10z-8)&t=igg01

Thanks
 

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