Realisability of the third law?

In summary, the conversation discusses the entropy equation for a monotonic ideal gas and the third law of thermodynamics, which states that entropy approaches zero as temperature approaches zero. However, as the temperature approaches zero in the given equation, the entropy approaches negative infinity assuming volume is fixed. This leads to the question of whether this is equivalent to minimum entropy. The speaker then suggests combining the equation to account for the addition of 1 in the logarithm, resulting in a solution where entropy is equal to zero when temperature is zero, satisfying the third law of thermodynamics.
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My lecture notes had S=A{3nR[ln(T)]/2+nR[ln(V)]}. A arbitary, is the entropy equation for a monotomic ideal gas.

The third law demands S->0 as T->0. But as T->0 in the above equation, S -> -infinity assuming V fixed.

What is wrong?

Or is it the case that S-> -infinity is equivalent to minimum entropy?

V can be made arbitarily small but non zero so when T=0, the entropy must be smaller than any S when T is non zero. This can only happen if S-> -infinity as if it's a finite number than V can always be made smaller so that there exists a V and T such that S is smaller than S when zero T.
 
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I just realized that S can be combined to get S=AnR[ln(T^(3/2)V)] with A an arbitary constant than do S=BnR[ln(T^(3/2)V+1)] with B to scale S in order to account for the addition of 1 in the logarithm. So T=0 => S=0 and so the third law is satisfied. Is this accurate?
 

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