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The Goldwater scholarship application is viewed as a valuable opportunity, despite concerns about the intensity of the process and the applicant's qualifications. The individual has a GPA above 3.8 but below the average of 3.95, lacks published papers, and identifies as not highly motivated. The discussion emphasizes that not applying guarantees no chance of receiving the scholarship, suggesting that even a rigorous application process could provide beneficial experience for future opportunities. Participants encourage applying regardless of current qualifications, highlighting that the worst outcome is simply not being selected. There is some confusion regarding GPA standards, with clarification needed on what constitutes an average GPA for applicants.
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The Goldwater scholarship application is approaching, and I think it's an excellent opportunity. However, I have a GPA less than the average of 3.95 (but above 3.8), have published no papers (but have been researching since late July), and all around am not a highly motivated individual. I'm also a sophomore.

Is the application process worth it? It seems very intense, and I don't want to spend a whole lot of time on it if I don't have at least a 50% chance. Thoughts?
 
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If you like certainty, the only sure thing to say is this: if you do not apply you have a 100% chance of not getting it.
 
mathwonk said:
If you like certainty, the only sure thing to say is this: if you do not apply you have a 100% chance of not getting it.

Great post.
 
What's the worst that happens? They don't pick you.
I say go for it, because if the application process is intensive then maybe it'll help you for the future when applying to other selective programs.

Good luck.
 
Rockoz said:
Great post.
Agreed.

Null_ said:
The Goldwater scholarship application is approaching, and I think it's an excellent opportunity. However, I have a GPA less than the average of 3.95 (but above 3.8), have published no papers (but have been researching since late July), and all around am not a highly motivated individual. I'm also a sophomore.

Is the application process worth it? It seems very intense, and I don't want to spend a whole lot of time on it if I don't have at least a 50% chance. Thoughts?

3.95gpa is less than average? We aren't talking of a 4.0 grading system are we?
 
I don't know what a GPA is, but Null_ said that 3.95 is the average (not below it), presumably taken over the people being granted a Goldwater scholarship (whatever that is).
 
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