Really ugly graph-volume problem

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a solid generated by revolving a region defined by a specific function and lines about the x-axis. The function in question is x = sqrt(2y)/(y^2 + 1), and the region is bounded by y = 0 and y = 1.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the appropriate integral to use for finding the volume, with some suggesting the shell method and questioning the setup of the integral. There is also a focus on the need to clarify the limits of integration and the specific area to be revolved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods and interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the shell method and the correct formulation of the integral, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

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There is mention of a graph that illustrates the problem, and participants are considering the implications of revolving the region about the x-axis versus the y-axis. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the effectiveness of their proposed method.

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Homework Statement


Find the volume of the solid generated by revolving the region about the x-axis.
Region = the area separated by given function and lines:

x = sqrt(2y)/(y^2 +1)
y=0.

The Attempt at a Solution



i just need to solve the integral of ∫x dy... How? Is there any simple way to solve it?
 
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Nikitin said:

Homework Statement


Find the volume of the solid generated by revolving the region about the x-axis.
Region = the area separated by given function and lines:

x = sqrt(2y)/(y^2 +1)
y=0.

The Attempt at a Solution



i just need to solve the integral of ∫x dy... How? Is there any simple way to solve it?

Don't you want ##\pi\int x^2\, dy##? Write out your integral, complete with limits so we know exactly what your problem is.
 
that would be the case if I wanted to revolve it around the Y-axis.

Here's a graph showing the problem:http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg14/scaled.php?server=14&filename=63679970.jpg&res=landing

i need to find the area between the y=1 and the graph (which I require the integral of x to find). that way I can find the average radii of the solid, remake it into a cylinder with the same area and revolve it to find a volume identical to the 1 I'm supposed to find.

Duno if this will work, tho.
 
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Nikitin said:
that would be the case if I wanted to revolve it around the Y-axis.

Here's a graph showing the problem:http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg14/scaled.php?server=14&filename=63679970.jpg&res=landing

i need to find the area between the y=1 and the graph (which I require the integral of x to find). that way I can find the average radii of the solid, remake it into a cylinder with the same area and revolve it to find a volume identical to the 1 I'm supposed to find.

Duno if this will work, tho.

Yes, I was thinking you were revolving about the Y axis. I see you have added the line y=1 to the problem. To revolve about the x-axis given you have x in terms of y, you want to use a dy integral and the shell method with an integral of this form:$$
V =2\pi\int_a^b yf(y)dy= 2\pi\int_0^1\frac{\sqrt 2 y^\frac 3 2}{1+y^2}\, dy$$which isn't quite the form in your original post. Whether that is an easy integral to work isn't obvious to me at the moment.
 
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Yes, your method sounds much better than mine. I just learned the shell method yesterday so I don't have any problems with that.

But the integral of x needs to be solved anyway (and it's without thinking about 2*pi outside, imo).
 

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