Rectifiers and electrical networks

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The discussion revolves around the impact of rectifiers on maintaining a sinusoidal voltage curve in electrical networks, particularly in the context of wind farms and their integration into power distribution systems. Participants explore the relationship between rectifiers, inverters, and the quality of output waveforms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how many rectifiers can be added to an electric network while still maintaining a correctly shaped sinusoidal voltage curve.
  • Another participant suggests that the answer depends on specific needs and notes that wind turbines do not produce a perfect waveform, but the rectified output is what matters.
  • It is mentioned that wind turbines produce AC power, which is then rectified and filtered before being converted back to a clean AC sine wave by an inverter.
  • A participant asserts that every significant wind turbine has an inverter, implying that this has been standard practice for a long time.
  • Questions arise about the ability to combine turbines of different capacities (2.5 kW, 5 kW, and 7.5 kW) in the same network and whether this would still yield a perfect waveform after rectification and inversion.
  • Responses indicate that the purpose of an inverter is to provide a waveform as close to ideal as practical, suggesting that operational issues would arise if it does not perform as designed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the performance of rectifiers and inverters in maintaining waveform quality. There is no clear consensus on the specific limits of rectifier integration or the conditions under which turbines can be combined effectively.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that not all information found online is accurate, indicating a potential limitation in the sources referenced. The discussion also highlights the dependence on specific configurations and operational conditions for achieving desired outcomes.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electrical engineering, renewable energy systems, and the integration of power generation technologies may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi,

I have read on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectifier, under Rectifier output smoothing) "In extreme cases where many rectifiers are loaded onto a power distribution circuit, it may prove difficult for the power distribution authority to maintain a correctly shaped sinusoidal voltage curve.".

Does anyone know how many rectifiers you can add to an electric network while still maintaining a correctly shaped sinusoidal voltage curve? If I look at a wind farm, not all the turbines will spin at the same speed at the same time. How do they manage to put out a perfect curve?
 
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barendfaber said:
Does anyone know how many rectifiers you can add to an electric network while still maintaining a correctly shaped sinusoidal voltage curve?

When a large part of the power through the network leaves through the rectifiers. A more precise answer depends on your exact needs.


barendfaber said:
If I look at a wind farm, not all the turbines will spin at the same speed at the same time. How do they manage to put out a perfect curve?

They don't, but it doesn't matter what waveform they put out, because you're rectifying it. You're only interested in the output of the rectifier in that case, you're not using the input to power anything else. The rectified DC from all the turbines is added, filtered, and used to power an inverter that gives clean AC sine waves of the proper phases. You don't just plug a wind turbine into the grid.
 
Every single wind turbine of significant size has an inverter. This has been the case for decades... too short for books and teachers to know it.

So: wind turbines produce AC power with the most perfect form.
 
Awesome! Thanks for the help. Not everything you read on the internet always makes sense! So regardless of the waveform, once rectified and put through an inverter, you will always get a perfect sinusoidal wave form? One last question, can you combine a 2.5 kW, 5 kW and 7.5 kW turbine to the same network, and once rectified and put through and inverter, you will still get the perfect wave?
 
barendfaber said:
Awesome! Thanks for the help. Not everything you read on the internet always makes sense! So regardless of the waveform, once rectified and put through an inverter, you will always get a perfect sinusoidal wave form? One last question, can you combine a 2.5 kW, 5 kW and 7.5 kW turbine to the same network, and once rectified and put through and inverter, you will still get the perfect wave?

The purpose of such an inverter is to provide as close to such a waveform as is practical...you're basically asking if it will operate as designed. Hopefully the answer is yes, you've got a problem if it isn't.
 
Thanks, question answered!
 

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