Refreshing gear ratio and total inertia

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between motor speed, actuator speed, and the calculation of total inertia in a mechanical setup involving gears and a spindle. The user seeks clarification on the correct formula for total inertia seen by the motor, presenting two potential equations. The first equation appears to represent the equivalent rotational inertia correctly, while the second may not account for the necessary gear ratios. The importance of combining gear ratios when transforming motor torque and speed to linear force and speed is emphasized. Accurate calculations are crucial for optimizing the performance of the actuator system.
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Suppose we've got the setup as shown in the figure (see attachment).
The idea is that the motor transfers its speed and force (rotary) to the actuator force and speed (linear) via some gears and a spindle.
Here:
R = radius [m]
J = inertia [kg m^2]
n = rotary to linear transmission [---]

If I am not mistaken, then the speed of the motor \phi_{motor} is related to the speed of the actuator \phi_{actuator} as follows:

\phi_{actuator} = \phi_{motor} \left( \frac{R_{motor}}{R_{spindle}} n_{actuator} \right)

The force of the actuator F_{actuator} is related to the torque of the motor T_{motor} as

F_{actuator} = T_{motor} \left( \frac{R_{spindle}}{R_{motor}} \frac{1}{n_{actuator}} \right)

And my main problem is the following: what is the total inertia J_{tot} seen by motor? Is that

J_{tot} = J_{motor} + \frac{J_{spindle}}{ \left( \frac{R_{spindle}}{R_{motor}} \right)^2 }

or

J_{tot} = J_{motor} + \frac{J_{spindle}}{ \left( \frac{R_{spindle}}{R_{motor}} \frac{1}{n_{actuator}} \right)^2}

If someone could confirm/correct my formula, that would be very helpful.

Thanks in advance.
Bob
 

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The first equation should, as far as I can see, give you the equivalent rotational inertia as if all the spindle inertia had been moved to the motor shaft. You would still need to combine all the gear ratios when transforming the motor torque or angular speed to the linear force or linear speed.
 
Ok thanks.
 
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