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The discussion revolves around relativistic momentum and energy, specifically focusing on protons in high-energy physics contexts, such as those found in particle accelerators like the Fermilab Bevatron and Tevatron. The original poster presents a problem involving the calculation of the Lorentz factor (γ) for a proton and the energy of an electron in a specific frame of reference.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the Lorentz factor (γ) using kinetic energy and momentum equations. Some participants suggest using the energy-mass equivalence relation instead. There are questions about the application of these equations to both parts of the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to approach the calculations, with some providing alternative perspectives on how to derive the necessary values. There is acknowledgment of errors in the original calculations, and a participant has expressed understanding after receiving clarification on the correct approach.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of energy values and the need for intermediate calculations. The discussion reflects a learning process with varying interpretations of the problem setup and calculations involved.

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Homework Statement


(a) A proton at rest has energy Eproton = mprotonc2 ≈ 938 MeV. (Its momentum is zero). The protons which circulated inside the Fermilab Bevatron had energies close to 1000 GeV (1GeV = 1000 MeV). What value of γ did a Tevatron proton have?

(b) Somehow a Bevatron proton captures an electron, becoming a fast-moving hydrogen atom without changing its speed. An electron at rest has Eelectron = mec2 ≈ 0.511 MeV. What is the electron's energy in the rest frame of Fermilab's sedentary buffalo herd?

Homework Equations


##\gamma = \dfrac{1}{1-\beta^2}##
where ##β = \frac{v}{c} ##
KE = TE - BE (TE is total energy, BE is rest energy or binding energy)

The Attempt at a Solution


I just want to check if my solution is correct or not.
(a) p (momentum) = ##\sqrt{2mK}##
K = 106 MeV - 938 MeV
So, mv = ##\sqrt{2mK}##
v = ##\sqrt{\frac{2K}{m}}##
Substitute for K = 1.6 × 10-13 J and m = 1.67 × 10-27 kg and get v in m/s
Substitute v in the equation for ##\gamma##

(b) Energy = KE + BE
= ##\frac{m_e v^2}{2}## + 0.511 × 106 × 1.6 × 10-19
Substitute in v from above equation, and sub in mass of electron.

Are these calculations right?
 
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What about using ##E = \gamma mc^2##
 
For what part? The second?
 
erisedk said:
For what part? The second?
Why not both?
 
So you mean,
(a) ##\gamma = \dfrac{10^3}{938} ##

and
(b) ## E = \dfrac{10^3}{938} × 0.511 MeV ##

Why? Also, is my answer wrong?
 
erisedk said:
So you mean,
(a) ##\gamma = \dfrac{10^3}{938} ##

and
(b) ## E = \dfrac{10^3}{938} × 0.511 MeV ##

Why? Also, is my answer wrong?

Those should be ##10^6##, otherwise yes.

Note that, for a particle:

##\gamma = E/E_0##

So if you have the energies, there is no need for all those intermediate calculations, which I didn't check.
 
Oh, okay I get it!
And yeah, that was a careless error, it is 106
Thank you!
 

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