Removable Discontinuity of f(x)=(4-x)/(16-x^2)

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The discussion revolves around the function f(x)=(4-x)/(16-x^2) and its points of discontinuity. Participants are trying to determine where the function is discontinuous and the nature of those discontinuities.

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  • Participants are questioning the values of x at which the function is discontinuous, specifically at x = 4 and x = -4. There are discussions about the definitions of continuity and discontinuity, and whether the function is defined at those points. Some participants suggest examining the graph for holes or jumps, while others emphasize the importance of understanding the definition of continuity.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of discontinuity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definitions of removable and non-removable discontinuities, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify the nature of discontinuities at both x = 4 and x = -4.

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There is a sense of urgency as some participants mention an upcoming exam, which may influence their understanding and exploration of the topic. The conversation reflects a mix of confusion and attempts to clarify the concepts involved.

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removable discontinuity

Homework Statement



the following function
f(x)=(4-x)/(16-x^2) is discontinuous at?

i got at -4 but some of my friends say its 4, -4

how is that possible
 
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Is the function even defined at ##x = \pm 4##?
 
jbunniii said:
Is the function even defined at ##x = \pm 4##?

well that's what u have to find

where is it discontinuous
i have an exam on this but its not clear yet to me
 
houssamxd said:
well that's what u have to find

where is it discontinuous
i have an exam on this but its not clear yet to me
Discontinuous doesn't mean the same thing as undefined. Go back to the definition of continuity: can a function be continuous at a point if it is not defined at that point?
 
houssamxd said:
well basically we just have to use the function and find the points where its disconitinuous
i.e in the graph there is a hole or a jump

check here
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-determine-whether-a-function-is-discontinuo.html
OK, so you said the function is discontinuous at ##x = 4##. Referring to your link, what kind of discontinuity does it have at that point?

For ##x = -4##, what is the value of the denominator at that point?
 
jbunniii said:
OK, so you said the function is discontinuous at ##x = 4##. Referring to your link, what kind of discontinuity does it have at that point?

For ##x = -4##, what is the value of the denominator at that point?
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but if u factorize the denominator and cancel you will only get -4 as a point of discontinuity

try it yourself
 
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Are you saying that the difficulty is that you do not know what "continuous" means? Didn't It occur to you to look up the definition?

A function, f, is continuous at x= a if and only if:
(1) f(a) exists
(2) [itex]\lim_{x\to a} f(x)[/itex] exists
(3) [itex]\lim_{x\to a} f(x)= f(a).<br /> <br /> For what values of x is at least one of those NOT true? (Look specifically at (1)!)[/itex]
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Are you saying that the difficulty is that you do not know what "continuous" means? Didn't It occur to you to look up the definition?

A function, f, is continuous at x= a if and only if:
(1) f(a) exists
(2) [itex]\lim_{x\to a} f(x)[/itex] exists
(3) [itex]\lim_{x\to a} f(x)= f(a).<br /> <br /> For what values of x is at least one of those NOT true? (Look specifically at (1)!)[/itex]
[itex] <br /> but if u factorise it and cancel the common <br /> you only get -4 as the point of discontinuity[/itex]
 
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houssamxd said:
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but if u factorize the denominator and cancel you will only get -4 as a point of discontinuity

try it yourself
Note that
$$\frac{4-x}{16-x^2}$$
and
$$\frac{1}{4+x}$$
are not the same function. They are equal for ##x \neq 4##, but the first function is undefined (hence discontinuous) at ##x=4## whereas the second is defined and continuous at ##x=4##.

Therefore the first function has what kind of discontinuity at ##x=4##?
 
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jbunniii said:
Note that
$$\frac{4-x}{16-x^2}$$
and
$$\frac{1}{4+x}$$
are not the same function. They are equal for ##x \neq 4##, but the first function is undefined (hence discontinuous) at ##x=4## whereas the second is defined and continuous at ##x=4##.

Therefore the first function has what kind of discontinuity at ##x=4##?

i guess it has a removable one right??
 
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houssamxd said:
i guess it has a removable one right??
That's right. After you remove it by canceling the common factor in the numerator and denominator, the result (second function I listed above) is continuous at that point.

Now what about ##x = -4##? You correctly determined that it is discontinuous there. What kind of discontinuity is it?
 
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jbunniii said:
That's right. After you remove it by canceling the common factor in the numerator and denominator, the result (second function I listed above) is continuous at that point.

Now what about ##x = -4##? You correctly determined that it is discontinuous there. What kind of discontinuity is it?

non removable
but do they both count as discontinuities
 
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houssamxd said:
non removable
but do they both count as discontinuities
Sure. A removable discontinuity is still a discontinuity. As your link describes it, you can think of it as a "gap" in the graph of the function at ##x = 4##. You can fill the gap by removing the common factor so the denominator will be defined at ##x=4##.
 
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jbunniii said:
Sure. A removable discontinuity is still a discontinuity. As your link describes it, you can think of it as a "gap" in the graph of the function at ##x = 4##. You can fill the gap by removing the common factor so the denominator will be defined at ##x=4##.

thanx a lot man
i owe you one
wish me luck for tomorrows exam
 
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houssamxd said:
thanx a lot man
i owe you one
wish me luck for tomorrows exam
Absolutely, good luck!
 
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