Representation of Z2 acting on wavefunctions

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The discussion centers on the representation of the group ##Z_2## acting on wavefunctions, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics. Participants explore the implications of wavefunctions being invariant under different representations of ##Z_2##, including the role of symmetry in physical theories and how these representations relate to specific physical contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of a wavefunction ##\Psi(X)## being invariant under the group ##Z_2## and presents multiple representations of ##Z_2##, seeking clarification on which representation applies.
  • Another participant suggests that the choice of representation depends on the symmetry being described, noting that the group ##\{\mathbb{I},\hat{\Pi} \}## corresponds to spatial reflections, while the representations ##\mathbb{Z}_2^A## and ##\mathbb{Z}_2^B## relate to different physical scenarios involving spin and spatial transformations.
  • A participant raises a concern about the lack of specificity when discussing invariance under larger groups like SU(3), questioning what is typically meant by such statements.
  • In response, another participant emphasizes the importance of context in understanding the implications of symmetry groups like SU(3), noting that they can represent various physical phenomena depending on how the representations are realized in quantum physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of wavefunction invariance under various representations of ##Z_2##, indicating that multiple competing interpretations exist. The discussion about SU(3) also highlights a lack of consensus on the specificity required when discussing symmetry in physical theories.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the meaning of symmetry groups can vary significantly based on the physical context, and that the realization of these representations in quantum mechanics is crucial for understanding their implications.

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If I have a wavefunction ##\Psi(X)## that is invariant under the group ##Z_2##, what specifically does that mean? There can be several operators that are representations of the group ##Z_2##, for example the operators

$$\mathbb{Z}_2=\{ \mathbb{I}, -\mathbb{I} \},$$
or
$$\mathbb{Z}_2=\{ \mathbb{I}, \hat{\Pi} \},$$
where ##\hat{\Pi}## is the parity operators with the action ##\hat{\Pi}: \Psi(X) \mapsto \Psi(-X)##. My question is, which one is it? Also, say if I have the 2 component wave-function, the following also produce a representation of ##Z_2##
$$
\mathbb{Z}_2^A=\bigg\{\mathbb{I},\;\;\begin{pmatrix}
\hat{\Pi} & 0\\
0& \hat{\Pi}
\end{pmatrix} \bigg\},
$$
or
$$
\mathbb{Z}_2^B=\bigg\{\mathbb{I},\;\;\begin{pmatrix}
0 & \hat{\Pi}\\
\hat{\Pi}&0
\end{pmatrix} \bigg\}.
$$
My question is, how do you determine which one is correct when people state that the wavefunction is invariant under ##Z_2## since a wavfunction invariant under ##Z_2^A## isn't necessarily invariant under ##Z_2^B##, however they are both representations of ##Z_2##.
 
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It depends upon which symmetry you want to describe. The symmetry group ##\{\mathbb{I},\hat{\Pi} \}## describes symmetry under spatial reflections. For your spin-1/2 example ##\mathbb{Z}_2^A## is also a usual spatial reflection, while ##\mathbb{A}_2^B## is a spatial reflection combined with a spin flip.
 
Okay, but people say things like, the theory is invariant under SU(3) yet they provide no extra details. What is usually meant by that?
 
Of course, you must get the context. SU(3) can mean a lot of things. E.g., the symmetry group of the 3D symmetric harmonic oscillator is SU(3), i.e., there's a set of combinations of annihilation and creation operators that build an su(3) Lie algebra representation.

It could also be an approximate chiral flavor symmetry of QCD with 3 quarks (u, d, s).

Or it's the (exact) local gauge group of QCD with the quarks and antiquark states transforming according to the two fundamental irreducible representations of SU(3).

As I said before, just telling the group of a symmetry doesn't necessarily tell you the physics behind it. More precisely in quantum physics you deal with unitary (ray) representations of groups. The physical meaning is given by how the representation is realized.
 

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