Resolving 3D Forces for Determining xyz Components

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The discussion revolves around resolving a force into its xyz components based on two different angular projections. Participants are exploring the relationships between the angles and the force's magnitude, with a focus on the correct application of trigonometric functions to find the components.

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  • One participant describes a force of 200 N viewed at 35 degrees from the horizontal and 12 degrees from above, attempting to calculate its components.
  • Another participant questions whether the labeled force in the diagrams represents the full magnitude of 200 N.
  • A participant confirms that the force is indeed the full magnitude and is the same in both diagrams.
  • One participant points out a potential mistake in the diagram, suggesting that the angle should be 102 degrees instead of 12 degrees, which seems to resolve the issue with the calculations.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct angles and their implications for the force components, indicating that multiple views and interpretations remain in the discussion.

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The discussion includes potential misunderstandings about the representation of angles in the diagrams and their impact on the calculations, which have not been fully resolved.

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Hi, I am trying to resolve a force into xyz components and I think I'm getting a bit confused.

When viewed face on the force is 35 degrees from the horizontal.

When viewed from above the force is at 12 degrees from the horizontal (not sure if one would refer to it as the horizontal but see the attached figure for clarity).

The magnitude of the force is 200 N.

The attempt at a solution:

Fy= (200)cos55 = 114.72 N
Fx=(200)cos35 = 163.83 N
Fz=(200)cos12= 195.63 N

However, F should equal sqrt{(Fx2+Fy2+Fz2)} but it does not, so I know I'm going wrong somewhere. Any hints?
 

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Hi, LukaD.

The two projections both have the force labeled as F. But is F in any of them the actual, full magnitude of 200N?
 
F is the full magnitude yes. F is the same force in both diagrams viewed from different angles.
 
Heh, I wasn't actually asking a question. I was pointing out the mistake. Can you take it from here, or do you need another clue?
 
Oh I see, I drew the diagram wrong, the line representing F in the second diagram should actually be the xy plane, so it's 102 degrees not 12. Is that right? It seems to work out!
 

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