Result of an increased % when ONLY the result of the OLD % is known

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the calculation of a new tax amount after an increase in the tax rate, given only the previous tax amount without additional information about the initial tax rate or the taxable base. The scope includes conceptual reasoning and mathematical exploration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested, Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem where the tax rate is increased by half of 1%, but only the previous tax amount is known.
  • Another participant suggests that additional information, such as the initial tax rate or the taxable amount, is necessary to solve the problem.
  • A different participant illustrates two scenarios with varying tax rates and amounts, concluding that the change in tax is dependent on the taxable amount, which is unknown in this case.
  • One participant expresses relief in confirming their inability to solve the problem, indicating a shared uncertainty about the feasibility of finding a solution without more information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the problem cannot be uniquely solved without additional information regarding the initial tax rate or the taxable base. There is a shared understanding that the change in tax is contingent on these unknowns.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of the problem, specifically the absence of necessary assumptions or definitions regarding the initial tax rate or the taxable amount, which prevents a definitive solution.

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Hi (first time post)

I got this from a bank of questions that leads me to believe this SHOULD be easy- but the solution is not coming to me:

The tax rate for businesses was increased by half of 1%. If a business was paying 20 000 dollars in taxes before the increase, how much would the business pay after the increase?

(I know it's not a direct function of the 20 000 dollars)

Thanks!
 
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Hello and welcome to MHB, mhazaa! :D

It seems we need another piece of information here...are you given either the initial tax rate or the amount on which the business is being taxed?
 
Hi - thanks for responding

That was my initial thought, but no, that's it! I copied the question verbatum.

(It's from a high school textbook!)
 
Let's take a look at two different scenarios in which the tax amount is 20 (in thousands of dollars).

Case 1:

Taxed amount: 2000
Tax rate: 1%

Case 2:

Taxed amount: 1000
Tax rate: 2%

In case 1, if we increase the tax rate to 1.5%, then the increase in tax is 10. But, in case 2, if we increase the tax rate to 2.5%, then the increase in tax is 5. So, we see that the change in tax is a function of the taxed amount $A$. We in fact find that the new tax amount $T$ would be given by:

$$T=20+0.005A$$

So, without knowing the taxed amount either directly, or by inferring it from knowing the initial tax rate, we cannot give a unique solution to this problem. :D
 
:)

I approached it the exact same way (and came to the conclusion that *I* couldn't do it... But my level of math/math confidence didn't allow me to conclude that "it" couldn't be done!

I'm actually pleased to have the confirmation!

Thanks.

(now... watch somebody do it!)
 

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