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The discussion revolves around the results presented at the EPS conference, particularly focusing on the measurements related to Higgs boson decays, including H→ττ and other decay channels. Participants explore the significance of these measurements, the methodologies used, and the implications for future research.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note a discrepancy in the reported significance of the H→ττ measurement, with one stating it is 4.9 sigma based on Run 2 alone, while another references a combined significance of 5.9 sigma from both Run 1 and Run 2.
  • There is discussion about the clarity of the presentation slides, with one participant expressing uncertainty about the combined significance of ATLAS and CMS results.
  • Participants highlight the methodology for estimating the Ztautau background, comparing it to techniques used in SUSY studies.
  • One participant asserts that H→ττ has been clearly observed, while noting that H→bb shows notable evidence and anticipates updates with 2016 data.
  • There is speculation about the visibility of various Higgs decay channels, with some being indistinguishable from background noise, and predictions for future measurements at HL-LHC.
  • Participants express gratitude for the summary of the EPS conference and request clarification on the acronym EPS.

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Participants express differing views on the significance of the measurements and the clarity of the conference presentations. There is no consensus on the exact significance values or the methodologies discussed, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty.

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Some statements rely on specific assumptions about the data and methodologies used in the measurements, and there are unresolved questions regarding the clarity of the presentation materials.

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Researchers and students interested in particle physics, particularly those focused on Higgs boson studies and recent developments in experimental results from major physics conferences.

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4.9 with Run 2 alone.

The linked summary slides claim 5.9 sigma in a combination of Run 1 and Run 2 (slide 7), but I don't see that combination in a CMS talk.
 
Oh, I hadn't checked the first link... As far as I understood in slide 7 they mention the combined ATLAS+CMS significance (5.5)? Although I might be wrong right now (tired and the slides are not very clear).

For me, an interesting approach is how they estimated the Ztautau background (by replacing the muons of Zmumu with taus)... Similar approaches I've seen by SUSY guys when they want to estimate the Znunu+jets background (by adding the muons' pT of a Zmumu region to missing momentum)
 
Well, independent of the exact combinations we have available: ##H \to \tau \tau## has been observed clearly. ##H \to bb## has some notable evidence already, and it will probably follow as soon as CMS gives an update with 2016 data.
Then we will see the Higgs decays in more production modes and more accurate measurements, but no new decay channels until the HL-LHC runs.

The decay to gluons is completely indistinguishable from background. The decay to charm is impossible to see as well - a factor 10 smaller branching fraction and a factor 10 higher background than bottom.
##H\to Z \gamma## will go from upper limits to measured branching fractions after Run 2 (2018), but with an expected significance of something like 1.3 sigma. Here is an ATLAS study, predicting 2.3 sigma with 300/fb (2023) and 3.9 with 3000/fb (~2035).
##H \to \mu \mu## looks a bit better, with the HL-LHC dataset it is expected that both ATLAS and CMS get a bit over 5 sigma.
There are also more exotic decays to specific hadrons, but they are rare to be found even with the HL-LHC (assuming Standard Model branching fractions).
 
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Interesting reading. Thanks @mfb. But I never did learn what EPS stands for. Perhaps you could add it to the opening sentence.
 
European Physical Society. The first sentence has a link already where you can find this. It doesn’t really matter because it is an international conference anyway.
 

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