Reverse-acting proportional pressure controller

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The discussion revolves around a reverse-acting proportional pressure controller with a specified output range of 4 to 20 mA and a set point of 11 bar. Participants are attempting to solve two problems: (a) determining the pressure corresponding to a 15 mA output with a 40% proportional band, and (b) finding the proportional band that results in an 8 mA output when the measured pressure is 14 bar. Various methods, including graphical representations and mathematical equations, are explored to arrive at the solutions, with some participants confirming their findings through calculations. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately interpreting the problem statement and the relationships between pressure, output, and proportional band settings. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes the need for clarity in problem-solving approaches and the application of mathematical principles in control systems.
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David J said:
I think the PB should be relating to the output which is mA in this question.

PB is the fraction of full scale input required to cause full scale output
Δin/Δout where Δout is 100%

80% of your 15 bar full scale input is 12 bar
 
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I think, finally, after looking at this for hours it just hit home. Its been staring me in the face to be honest but I finally got it. It made me question my answer to the first part though, even though I had been told my answer was correct my graph wasn't so I ended up changing it. We are not even required to create a graph, I just did it to get a better understanding and I think given this problem in the future being able to plot a graph will be a big help

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Thanks again for your help with this problem
 

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David J said:
I think, finally, after looking at this for hours it just hit home. Its been staring me in the face to be honest but I finally got it.

Isn't that a great feeling ?
Thanks for sharing your victory.
We old guys enjoy them too , if only vicariously.

You're equipped now to help your classmates.

In my plant we made such drawings of our analog reactor control and protection system for our own use.We called them "Scaling Diagrams".
Actually one young engineer made them to teach himself how it all worked and we all recognized their value. ( In case he's reading this , his initials were jpm , nice work Jorge !)
Ten years later our engineering department stumbled across them, cleaned them up and made them into official plant drawings.

As you have found a picture is worth a thousand words .

I'm glad to hear 'the light came on' for you, thanks for the feedback.
Now - Share the light !

old jim
 
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