Reversing order of integration of double integral qns.

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The discussion revolves around reversing the order of integration in a double integral involving the inequalities x^2 < y < x^3 and -1 < x < 1. Participants are examining the limits of integration and the graphical representation of the bounded region.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial limits of integration and the need to sketch the region defined by the curves y = x^2 and y = x^3. There are attempts to redefine the limits based on the graphical representation, with some questioning the necessity of including the vertical boundary at x = -1.

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Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the graphical boundaries and the limits of integration. Some participants have expressed confusion over the correct limits and have adjusted their understanding based on feedback. Multiple interpretations of the limits are being explored, particularly concerning the negative portions of the graph.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may impose specific requirements on how the problem is approached and solved. There is an ongoing discussion about the correct representation of limits based on the graphical analysis.

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intially upper and lower limits are , x^2 < y< x^3 and -1<x<1
sketched y=x^2 and y= x^3. => sqrt(y) =x and cube root (y) = x
divide the area into 3 section.
new limits of dxdy
sqrt(y) <x< cube root (y) with 0<y<1 ,
and 0<x< sqrt(y) with 0<y< -1, ( for -ve x and +ve y portion of x^2 graph)
and cube root (y)< x< 0 with -1<y<0 ( for -ve x and -ve y portion of x^3 graph)

but the answer i have shows a different answer. guess i am wrong, but anyone can tell me which part?
attached is a graph i tried to draw( pardon my IT skills=P)
 

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Your picture is good, but you should emphasize that the region is also bounded by a vertical segment at x=(-1). Doesn't that mean some of your lower limits in the x integration need to be -1?
 
hmm..to find limit of x integration we draw vertical line? so when i split the area to three sections, their upper limits is cube root y or sqrt y and the lower limit is 0?
yea, but according to the answer i have, it uses limits of x integration as -1..and i don't understand why?
could you kindly explain to me?
 
Take your diagram and draw a segment connecting (-1,1) and (-1,-1). That's the boundary curve that determines your lower limit when you are doing the x<0 parts of the integration.
 
opps..i was wrong, we should draw horizontal lines instead. and yup..
i get jus (for the -ve x portion)
-1 < x < sqrt y with 0< y< 1
and -1 < x < -x^3 with -1< y < 0
using the these lines as a guide..
 
opps i only can attach files when i post a thread? can't seem to be able to upload the edited graph here??
 
blursotong said:
opps..i was wrong, we should draw horizontal lines instead. and yup..
i get jus (for the -ve x portion)
-1 < x < sqrt y with 0< y< 1
and -1 < x < -x^3 with -1< y < 0
using the these lines as a guide..

You'll need to express x limits in terms of y. And for both of them, the upper limit should be a negative number, like your graph shows.
 
yup.i got them now.
i get (jus for the -ve x portion)
-1 < x < -sqrt y with 0< y< 1
and -1 < x < -cube root y with -1< y < 0

thanks a lot for your guidance=D
 
blursotong said:
yup.i got them now.
i get (jus for the -ve x portion)
-1 < x < -sqrt y with 0< y< 1
and -1 < x < -cube root y with -1< y < 0

thanks a lot for your guidance=D

Are you super sure about that -cube root(y)?? Remember if y is negative then cube root(y) is already negative.
 
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ahah! my wrong..it should be jus cube root of y...
thx for pointing out!
=D
 

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