Right hand palm rule and right hand clasp rule

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The discussion revolves around the right hand palm rule and the right hand clasp rule, exploring their differences and similarities in the context of physics, particularly in relation to magnetic forces and fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the right hand palm rule and the right hand clasp rule are different or the same.
  • One participant suggests that the palm rule is typically used for determining the magnetic force on a moving charge, while the clasp rule is used for finding the direction of the magnetic field surrounding a current.
  • Another participant notes the complexity of terminology, mentioning that in the UK, Fleming's Left Hand Rule and Right Hand Rule are also used, along with the right hand cork-screw (or grip) rule, all of which utilize conventional (positive) current.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the two rules are the same or different, and multiple viewpoints regarding their applications and terminology are presented.

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The discussion highlights variations in terminology and usage across different regions, which may affect understanding and application of the rules.

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are both right hand palm rule and right hand clasp rule different? or are they same/
 
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logearav said:
are both right hand palm rule and right hand clasp rule different? or are they same/
The palm rule is usually for finding the magnetic force on a moving charge and the grip rule is for finding the direction of the magnetic field surrounding a current. They are both ways of specifying the direction of a vector cross product.

That said, there are many variations. See http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfor.html#c3".
 
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It gets very complicated indeed, because here in the UK we talk about Fleming's Left Hand (Motor) Rule and the Right Hand (Dynamo) Rule; as well as the right hand cork-screw (or grip) rule. All rules use conventional (positive current).
 
thanks mr. doc al and mr. stonebridge.
 

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