Right hand palm rule and right hand clasp rule

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The right hand palm rule and right hand clasp rule serve different purposes in physics; the palm rule determines the magnetic force on a moving charge, while the clasp rule indicates the direction of the magnetic field around a current. Both rules help specify the direction of a vector cross product. Variations exist, such as Fleming's Left Hand Rule and the Right Hand Dynamo Rule, which are commonly referenced in the UK. These rules consistently use conventional positive current for their applications. Understanding these distinctions is essential for grasping concepts in electromagnetism.
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are both right hand palm rule and right hand clasp rule different? or are they same/
 
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are both right hand palm rule and right hand clasp rule different? or are they same/
The palm rule is usually for finding the magnetic force on a moving charge and the grip rule is for finding the direction of the magnetic field surrounding a current. They are both ways of specifying the direction of a vector cross product.

That said, there are many variations. See http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfor.html#c3".
 
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It gets very complicated indeed, because here in the UK we talk about Fleming's Left Hand (Motor) Rule and the Right Hand (Dynamo) Rule; as well as the right hand cork-screw (or grip) rule. All rules use conventional (positive current).
 
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