RMS speeds of helium and argon atoms

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The discussion revolves around calculating the root-mean-square (RMS) speeds of helium and argon atoms in a gas at a temperature of 1000 degrees Celsius. The context is within the subject area of thermodynamics and kinetic theory of gases.

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  • The original poster expresses confusion regarding the question and seeks clarification on the RMS speed calculation. Participants discuss the formula for RMS speed and the necessary conversions for temperature and molecular mass.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the formula to use and the steps needed for the calculations, including the conversion of temperature from Celsius to Kelvin. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further information regarding molecular mass.

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The original poster mentions that the textbook does not explain the topic clearly, indicating a potential gap in understanding the material. There is also a reference to using online resources for additional information.

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i am having a bit of trouble with this question, and its not explained very clearly in our textbook...

"what are the RMS speeds of helium an dargon in a gas at 1000 degrees C"

any help would be greatly appreciated. physics is definitely not one of my strengths...

=D

cheers.
KC
 
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You will want to use the formula for the root-mean-square speed of molecules in an ideal gas

v_{rms} = \surd \frac{3kT}{m}

where k is the Boltzmann constant, T is the absolute temperature in Kelvins (so you will have to convert the 1000º C.), and m is the molecular mass in kg. (you will need the mass of a helium or argon atom in atomic mass units and the value for 1 amu in kilograms).
 
oh thanks a bunch! ur a genius

:biggrin:
 
twiztdlogik said:
oh thanks a bunch! ur a genius

I am going to reply that you can be as big a "genius" as I was to answer this. As they like to say around various forums, Google is your friend. I searched on "molecular speeds" and "RMS" to make sure I gave you the right formula; there are three averages given for speeds in velocity distributions of molecules in an ideal gas, all with similar expressions and differing only in the numerical constant... (The 'Net is an excellent reference source for physics material, if you don't mind having to pick through search results.)
 
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