Rocket acceleration/displacement problem

  • Thread starter Thread starter UNDEAD WAFFLE
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Rocket
AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on solving a multi-part physics problem involving a two-stage rocket's motion. For Part A, the vertical displacement of the first stage is calculated as 200 meters, and for Part B, the final speed after 10 seconds is determined to be 40 m/s. The main challenge arises in Part C, where the user struggles with calculating the total height after the second stage is activated, particularly regarding the time duration of the second stage's burn. It is clarified that the net acceleration must account for gravitational forces, and the user is advised to calculate the displacement during the second stage and the subsequent ascent before falling back to Earth. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the timing and forces involved in the rocket's motion.
UNDEAD WAFFLE
Messages
6
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


A two stage rocket is launched with an average acceleration of +4 m/s/s. After 10 seconds, a second stage is activated and the rocket's acceration is now +6 m/s/s.

Part A: Find the vertical displacement of stage one of the rocket, before accleration changes to 6.

Part B: Find the final speed after 10 seconds of motion.

Part C: The second stage is activated, find the total height the rocket ascends (its highest point) before it starts to travel back to earth.

Part D: Find the displacement traveled by the second stage only.



Homework Equations


Vf = Vi + a\Deltat

\Deltay = Vi\Deltat + 0.5a(\Deltat)^2

(Vf)^2 = (Vi)^2 + 2a\Deltay



The Attempt at a Solution



For Part A I calculated displacement with \Deltay = Vi\Deltat + 0.5a(\Deltat)^2.
y was my unknown variable and my Vi was 0, my t 10 seconds, and my a +4.
I got 200meters.


For Part B I calculated the first stage's final speed by using the equation Vf = Vi + a\Deltat.

I had a Vi of 0, an accleration of +4 and a t of 10. My velocity final was +40 m/s.

As far as part c goes I plugged everything into
(Vf)^2 = (Vi)^2 + 2a\Deltay
this time I had a velocity initial as +40 [part b] and i used 0 as my velocity final because i was solving for the peak. However, my negative signs got messed up. Here's where I need help. Am I on the right track??
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Hi,

You need to now how much time the second stage is burning.
 
Okay, let's sort it all out.

So you are calculating from the starting point,

First stage net acceleration - 4m/s^{2}
First stage burning time - 10s
Second stage net accelaration - 6m/s^{2}

When I talk about net acceleration, I am assuming those accelerations you are providing already accounted for acceleration due to gravity \stackrel{\rightarrow}{g} = -9.8 m/s^{2}.

Equations that we are going to use,

\stackrel{\rightarrow}{v_{f}} = \stackrel{\rightarrow}{v_{i}} + \stackrel{\rightarrow}{a}}\Delta t

\stackrel{\rightarrow}{\Delta y} = 0.5 \stackrel{\rightarrow}{a}} \Delta t^{2} + \stackrel{\rightarrow}{v_{i}}\Delta t

\stackrel{\rightarrow}{v_{f}^{2}} = \stackrel{\rightarrow}{v_{i}^{2}} + 2 (\stackrel{\rightarrow}{a}})(\stackrel{\rightarrow}{\Delta y})

Checking at your work for part A and part B, I found no problem with those.

So you have \stackrel{\rightarrow}{y_{first}} = 200m and \stackrel{\rightarrow}{v_{first}} = 40m/s.

Here is the problem, as JasonGodbout has pointed out, you don't have the time for the second stage. In order to reach its highest point it needs to burn at a fixed time so that g can acts on it and slows it down. Otherwise the rocket is just going to keep moving at a constant acceleration and it never stops. Unless your second stage acceleration is not net acceleration (I doubt it).

Generally your strategy would be to solve for the displacement covered by the second stage acceleration. Then solve for the displacement covered after second stage acceleration has ended (g is now your third acceleration) with a final velocity of 0m/s. Finally add the displacement from first stage to the two displacement findings above to solve for part 3.

I'll leave part 4 to you then.
 
I picked up this problem from the Schaum's series book titled "College Mathematics" by Ayres/Schmidt. It is a solved problem in the book. But what surprised me was that the solution to this problem was given in one line without any explanation. I could, therefore, not understand how the given one-line solution was reached. The one-line solution in the book says: The equation is ##x \cos{\omega} +y \sin{\omega} - 5 = 0##, ##\omega## being the parameter. From my side, the only thing I could...
Essentially I just have this problem that I'm stuck on, on a sheet about complex numbers: Show that, for ##|r|<1,## $$1+r\cos(x)+r^2\cos(2x)+r^3\cos(3x)...=\frac{1-r\cos(x)}{1-2r\cos(x)+r^2}$$ My first thought was to express it as a geometric series, where the real part of the sum of the series would be the series you see above: $$1+re^{ix}+r^2e^{2ix}+r^3e^{3ix}...$$ The sum of this series is just: $$\frac{(re^{ix})^n-1}{re^{ix} - 1}$$ I'm having some trouble trying to figure out what to...
Back
Top