Root Mean Square Speed Units Question

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the root mean square speed (Vrms) of gas molecules given specific conditions, including temperature, pressure, and density. The problem involves understanding the relationships between these variables and their units.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the formula for Vrms and expresses concern about the units of the final answer, particularly how to reconcile the different units of pressure and density.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on ensuring consistent units by suggesting the use of SI units and performing dimensional analysis. There is acknowledgment of the complexity involved in unit conversions, particularly when dealing with ideal gas calculations.

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The original poster is working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may impose specific requirements for unit consistency and the identification of the gas based on calculated molar mass.

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Homework Statement



"At 273 K and 1.00x10^-2 atm, the density of a gas is 1.24x10^-5 g/cm^3.

A.) Find the Vrms for the gas molecules
B.) Find the molar mass and identify the gas (Choose from H2, He, H20, N2, O2, or CO2)"

Homework Equations



Vrms = √(3RT/Mm)
pV = nRT

The Attempt at a Solution



n = mass/Mm
pV = mass/Mm *RT
Mm = mass*RT/(pV)
Mm = ρRT/p

Vrms = √(3RT/(ρRT/p)) = √(3p/ρ)

So I have the solution up until this point, the main thing I am worried about is the units of my answer. I have pressure in atm, which is some form of Force/Area. I have density in g/cm^3. So pressure/density will be some form of (distance/time)^2, which of course is taken care of with the radical. The only thing I can not come up with is what exact units it will be in. Any help here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
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A rule of thumb is that if you use SI units for every term in an expression, you can expect the answer to be in SI units. You can do a dimensional analysis to verify this as well. Converting atm to Pascals and g/cm^3 to Kg/m^3, should give you m/s for Vrms.
 
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks a lot!
 
Since ideal gas calculations can sometimes involve a mixture of different units, the following article gives values of R in several different unit combinations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_constant
 

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