Rotational Motion and Equilibrium

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The discussion revolves around a problem in rotational motion, specifically involving a pulley system where the goal is to determine the constant torque required to achieve a certain angular speed after a specified number of revolutions, starting from rest.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of time and question the use of angular speed in the context of the problem. There is confusion regarding the relationship between angular displacement and angular speed, particularly in the initial approach taken by the original poster.

Discussion Status

Several participants have pointed out potential errors in the original poster's calculations and assumptions. There is ongoing exploration of the correct relationships between angular displacement, angular speed, and torque, with no consensus reached yet on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster's use of the term "omega" may have been incorrect, suggesting a misunderstanding of the variables involved. The problem's setup includes specific values for mass, radius, and desired angular speed, which are being scrutinized for accuracy in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A 2.5 kg pulley of radius 0.15m is pivoted about an axis through its center. What constant torque is required for the pulley to reach an angular speed 25rad/s after rotating 3.0 revolutions, starting from rest?


Homework Equations



torque = (mr^2)(angular acceleration)

The Attempt at a Solution



First I solved for time using t= omega/angular speed = 6(pie) rad / 25 rad/s = 0.75s.
Then, I solved for angular acceleration = 33 rad/s

Solving for torque, using the above equation, I got 1.9 m-N

The textbook I have says this is the wrong answer. What have I done?

The book says the answer is 0.47 m-N
 
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hbailey said:
First I solved for time using t= omega/angular speed = 6(pie) rad / 25 rad/s = 0.75s.

That seems wrong. Why is omega [itex]6\pi[/itex] radians? Isn't omega the angular speed? What you're calculating is the amount of time it would take for the pulley to rotate [itex]6\pi[/itex] radians at 25 rad/s.
 
In using t=omega/angular speed you are assuming that the angular speed is constant. As it starts from rest, this can't be right.
 
Torque/I = angular acceleration. w=0+at, where a=angular accn. 6pie=0.5at^2, using equations of rotational motion. Solve to get torque.
 
hbailey said:

Homework Statement


A 2.5 kg pulley of radius 0.15m is pivoted about an axis through its center. What constant torque is required for the pulley to reach an angular speed 25rad/s after rotating 3.0 revolutions, starting from rest?


Homework Equations



torque = (mr^2)(angular acceleration)

The Attempt at a Solution



First I solved for time using t= omega/angular speed = 6(pie) rad / 25 rad/s = 0.75s.
Then, I solved for angular acceleration = 33 rad/s

Solving for torque, using the above equation, I got 1.9 m-N

The textbook I have says this is the wrong answer. What have I done?

The book says the answer is 0.47 m-N

Oh, instead of omega above, I meant theta.
 

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