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The discussion revolves around a related rates problem involving a security camera positioned above a hallway. Participants explore how to derive a formula for the camera's rate of rotation in relation to its scanning beam movement along the hallway, considering both constant and variable rates of rotation.

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  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Conceptual clarification

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  • One participant proposes a general approach to derive a formula for the camera's rotation based on its height and the distances to the ends of the hallway.
  • Another participant discusses the relationship between the angle of rotation and the position of the camera's beam, introducing the tangent function and its derivative.
  • There is a focus on the constraints of the angle of rotation, with specific intervals defined for the angle based on the camera's height and the distances to the hallway ends.
  • A participant questions the derivation of a specific expression related to the cosine function, prompting a clarification involving the definition of cosine in the context of a right triangle.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the relationship between the sides of the triangle formed by the camera's position and the floor, leading to a discussion about the cosine squared term.

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Participants generally agree on the approach to derive the formula and the relationships involved, but there are points of clarification and questioning regarding specific mathematical steps. No consensus is reached on the final formulation or implications of the derived expressions.

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Some assumptions regarding the definitions of variables and the geometric relationships are not explicitly stated, which may affect the clarity of the derivations. The discussion does not resolve all mathematical steps or implications of the derived formulas.

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Here is the question:

A security camera is centered 50 ft above a 100 foot hallway... Related Rates Question! HELP?

A security camera is centered 50 ft above a 100 foot hallway. It rotates back and forth to scan from one end of the hallway to the other. It is easiest to design the camera with a constant angular rate of rotation, but this results in a variable rate at which the images of the surveillance area are recorded. Therefore, it is desirable to design a system with a variable rate of rotation and a constant rate of movement of the scanning beam along the hallway. What rate of rotation is necessary to accomplish this? Verify you solution with some specific constant rates of movement.

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A security camera is centered 50 ft above a 100 foot hallway... Related Rates Question! HELP? - Yahoo! Answers

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Hello Samantha,

I would solve this problem in more general terms, derive a formula, then plug the given data in.

Suppose we let the camera be $h$ units above the hallway, and the hallway extends $L_1$ units to the left of the camera and $L_2$ units to the right. Let the angle $\theta$ of the camera's angle of rotation be zero radians directly below the camera.

Please refer to the following diagram:

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Hence the angle of rotation will be confined to the interval:

$\displaystyle -\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{L_1}{h} \right)\le\theta\le\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{L_2}{h} \right)$

We can see that for any positive value of $h$ and any finite values of $L_1$ and $L_2$, we must have:

$\displaystyle -\frac{\pi}{2}<\theta<\frac{\pi}{2}$

Now, letting the position of the camera's beam on the floor of the hallway be $(x,0)$, we have the following relationship between this position and the angle of rotation:

$\displaystyle \tan(\theta)=\frac{x}{h}$

Differentiating with respect to time $t$, we find:

$\displaystyle \sec^2(\theta)\frac{d\theta}{dt}=\frac{1}{h}\frac{dx}{dt}$

We require $\displaystyle \left|\frac{dx}{dt} \right|=k$ where $0<k\in\mathbb{R}$. Hence:

$\displaystyle \frac{d\theta}{dt}=\frac{k}{h}\cos^2(\theta)=\frac{k}{h}\frac{h^2}{x^2+h^2}=\frac{kh}{x^2+h^2}$

Using the given data, we find the angle of rotation will vary from:

$\displaystyle -\frac{\pi}{4}\le\theta\le\frac{\pi}{4}$

where:

$\displaystyle \left|\frac{d\theta}{dt} \right|=\frac{50k}{x^2+50^2}$

and:

$\displaystyle -50\le x\le50$
 

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MarkFL said:
Hello Samantha,

I would solve this problem in more general terms, derive a formula, then plug the given data in.

Suppose we let the camera be $h$ units above the hallway, and the hallway extends $L_1$ units to the left of the camera and $L_2$ units to the right. Let the angle $\theta$ of the camera's angle of rotation be zero radians directly below the camera.

Please refer to the following diagram:
Hence the angle of rotation will be confined to the interval:

$\displaystyle -\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{L_1}{h} \right)\le\theta\le\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{L_2}{h} \right)$

We can see that for any positive value of $h$ and any finite values of $L_1$ and $L_2$, we must have:

$\displaystyle -\frac{\pi}{2}<\theta<\frac{\pi}{2}$

Now, letting the position of the camera's beam on the floor of the hallway be $(x,0)$, we have the following relationship between this position and the angle of rotation:

$\displaystyle \tan(\theta)=\frac{x}{h}$

Differentiating with respect to time $t$, we find:

$\displaystyle \sec^2(\theta)\frac{d\theta}{dt}=\frac{1}{h}\frac{dx}{dt}$

We require $\displaystyle \left|\frac{dx}{dt} \right|=k$ where $0<k\in\mathbb{R}$. Hence:

$\displaystyle \frac{d\theta}{dt}=\frac{k}{h}\cos^2(\theta)=\frac{k}{h}\frac{h^2}{x^2+h^2}=\frac{kh}{x^2+h^2}$

Using the given data, we find the angle of rotation will vary from:

$\displaystyle -\frac{\pi}{4}\le\theta\le\frac{\pi}{4}$

where:

$\displaystyle \left|\frac{d\theta}{dt} \right|=\frac{50k}{x^2+50^2}$

and:

$\displaystyle -50\le x\le50$

Mark,How did you arrive at
$\displaystyle \frac{k}{h}\frac{h^2}{x^2+h^2}$
From $\displaystyle \frac{k}{h}\cos^2(\theta)$
 
MSW said:
Mark,

How did you arrive at
$\displaystyle \frac{k}{h}\frac{h^2}{x^2+h^2}$
From $\displaystyle \frac{k}{h}\cos^2(\theta)$

If we have defined:

$$\tan(\theta)=\frac{x}{h}$$

This means in the right triangle the side opposite from $\theta$ is x and the side adjacent is $x$. By Pythagoras, the hypotenuse must then be $$\sqrt{x^2+h^2}.$$

As cosine is defined to be the ratio of adjacent to hypotenuse, we then find:

$$\cos(\theta)=\frac{\text{adjacent}}{\text{hypotenuse}}=\frac{h}{\sqrt{x^2+h^2}}$$

Hence:

$$\cos^2(\theta)=\frac{h^2}{x^2+h^2}$$

Does this make sense?
 
MarkFL said:
If we have defined:

$$\tan(\theta)=\frac{x}{h}$$

This means in the right triangle the side opposite from $\theta$ is x and the side adjacent is $x$. By Pythagoras, the hypotenuse must then be $$\sqrt{x^2+h^2}.$$

As cosine is defined to be the ratio of adjacent to hypotenuse, we then find:

$$\cos(\theta)=\frac{\text{adjacent}}{\text{hypotenuse}}=\frac{h}{\sqrt{x^2+h^2}}$$

Hence:

$$\cos^2(\theta)=\frac{h^2}{x^2+h^2}$$

Does this make sense?

Perfect sense! Thank you!
 

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