Santa In Australia Can't Say Ho Ho Ho Anymore?

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The discussion centers around the claim that Santa in Australia can no longer say "Ho Ho Ho," exploring the implications of this change and the reactions it has provoked. Participants express various opinions on the motivations behind such policies, the nature of political correctness, and broader societal trends regarding language and offense.

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  • One participant suggests that the ban on "Ho Ho Ho" is not about political correctness but rather a reflection of absurd safety regulations.
  • Another humorously connects the issue to Bill Clinton's Christmas plans, implying a broader cultural impact.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the motivations of those who advocate for such changes, suggesting it stems from overprotective parenting.
  • There are claims that the term "Ho" has become problematic due to its use in American rap culture, leading to confusion about its appropriateness.
  • Several participants note the irony that while Santa cannot say "Ho," rappers are free to use the term without consequence.
  • One participant proposes that if Santa were a rapper, he could say anything he wanted, suggesting a humorous solution to the issue.
  • Another participant speculates about future restrictions on language, humorously suggesting bans on letters and sounds due to their potential for offense.

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Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the appropriateness of the ban or the motivations behind it. Disagreement exists regarding the implications of political correctness and the nature of offense in language.

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Some comments reflect personal opinions on societal trends and language use, but these are not universally accepted or agreed upon. The discussion includes speculative and humorous elements that highlight the complexity of the topic.

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Santa In Australia Can't Say "Ho Ho Ho" Anymore?

This has nothing to do with political correctness or even trying to be polite. It has everything to do with being stupid.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071115/wl_asia_afp/lifestyleaustraliachristmasoffbeat

I truly believe that there are just some people in some organizations or companies, who really don't have that much to do, and start to think of all of these silly ideas. There are some policies coming out of our safety regulations here that I think came out of such people.

Zz.
 
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This is going to put a dent in Bill Clinton's itinerary this Christmas.
 
Hehehe. :biggrin:
 
The same keepers of sanctity live in New Mexico. Their favorite sport is to install flexible plastic "wands" in the middle of a right-hand turn lane, to force people to turn right at the first allowed right hand turn, and not the second one further along.

The local testostrerone set here routinely shreds those things on Friday night. So, in oder to maintain sanctity, our local town has a cop on full-time duty Friday nights to prevent these affronts to the keeper's judgement.

Now if they'd just nab the drunk drivers, things would be great... NM has the highest DWI-related crash rate in the US - although we do swap that honor with the state of Wyoming every once in a while.

If there is a per-capita statistic people widely view as indicating something dangerous or undesirable New Mexico will be ranked in the top 5 states in the US for it - DWI crashes, teen suicides, etc. The flip side: pick a statistic usually viewed as good. Darn. I'll bet you guessed already: NM ranks in the bottom 5 worst states. It's amazing.
 
ps. neutrino I find 'HeHeHe' racially offensive for reasons that I haven't decided yet.
pps. Your posting name meaning 'little one' in Italian is offensive to those of us who are 'vertically challenged'
ppps. The smiley is oppresive to us Brits and other others without perfect teeth.

I could go on but it's time for my medication...
 
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mgb_phys said:
ps. neutrino I find 'HeHeHe' racially offensive for reasons that I haven't decided yet.
:smile: A politician in the making. :biggrin:
pps. Your posting name meaning 'little one' in Italian is offensive to those of us who are 'vertically challenged'
ppps. The smiley is oppresive to us Brits and other others without perfect teeth.

I could go on but it's time for my medication...
:smile:
 
mgb_phys said:
ps. neutrino I find 'HeHeHe' racially offensive for reasons that I haven't decided yet.
pps. Your posting name meaning 'little one' in Italian is offensive to those of us who are 'vertically challenged'
ppps. The smiley is oppresive to us Brits and other others without perfect teeth.

I could go on but it's time for my medication...

:smile:

I saw this story yesterday, and can only think it's yet another parent who should have never had children trying to protect them from something that made them cry instead of having the sense and judgement to either comfort the child or wait until they are old enough to enjoy the experience (next they'll say Santa can't have a beard or red hat or be a man, because all that makes their wimpy kids cry).

Anticipated headline mid-December: "Mall Santa Sued: Parent alleges Santa laughed at funny-looking child, uttering 'Ha Ha Ha' instead of 'Ho Ho Ho'"
 
It does seem to be a case of 'having it both ways'
Someone got fired for saying "niggardly" it has no connection to the N-word (it's from Old Norse). But says the oppressed party - I didn't know that, but it doesn't matter it's still offensive.

They ban santa saying 'Ho' because it's a bad word in American rapper slang.
I didn't know that says the Australian - it doesn't matter says offended party, it's still offensive!

But "He He He" is of course sexist - it should be "She/He She/He She/He"

The funniest one I have seen is a "Parental Advisory - lyrics" sticker on a CD of Carmina Burana.
Yes, they are a little rude, but in medieaval latin! Your kids would have to be quite well educated to be offended.
 
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The funniest one I have seen is a "Parental Advisory - lyrics" sticker on a CD of Carmina Burana.
Yes, they are a little rude, but in medieaval latin! Your kids would have to be quite well educated to be offended.

:smile: Sad. Yes, if your child knows enough Latin to understand even the more crude words, and is choosing to listen to Carmina Burana, I don't think you really have much to worry about.
 
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mgb_phys said:
It does seem to be a case of 'having it both ways'
Someone got fired for saying "niggardly" it has no connection to the N-word but is from Old Norse. But says the oppressed party - I didn't know that but it doesn't matter it's still offensive.

They ban santa saying 'Ho' because it's a bad word in American rapper slang.
I didn't know that says the Australian - it doesn't matter says offended party, it's still offensive!

But "He He He" is of course sexist - it should be "She/He She/He She/He"

The funniest one I have seen is a "Parental Advisory - lyrics" sticker on a CD of Carmina Burana.
Yes, they are a little rude, but in medieaval latin! Your kids would have to be quite well educated to be offended.

Suprisingly, almost no one ever gets offended by this T-shirt.
 
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BobG said:
Suprisingly, almost no one ever gets offended by this T-shirt.

Does that suggest something about the educational level of those who are easily offended? :rolleyes:
 
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ZapperZ said:
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071115/wl_asia_afp/lifestyleaustraliachristmasoffbeat
...

On a rating of '1' to 'stupidest thing I've ever heard of', I think this ranks a 'stupidest thing I've ever heard of'.
 
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Ironic that rappers can say ho but Santa can't.

This is too much!
 
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Moonbear said:
Ho ho ho, yippee yo yippee yay! :smile:
Moonbear! How could you say such a thing?! You've just offended half the galaxy!


Actually I'm waiting for the ban on the letter 'F' because of certain associations of the letter with a certain vowel and a couple of consonants. Or perhaps they will restrict usage of F from being used at the beginning of words, in which case they'll have to find a suitable replacement. The dipthong Ph will also be similarly restricted because it sounds to much like F, so possible replacments might be H or W, even HW or WH.

Similar action is being considered for the dipthong SH.

I also understand in order to avoid bad and distasteful meanings, any word for which the meaning is clear will not be used in the context for which it might be properly interpreted, and a suitable substitute for which the meaning is vague, ambiguous or completely unintelligible will have to be used.

Well - it's just a rumor.
 

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