Schaums Outline: Entropy Ques - Tmp Not Constant

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The discussion centers on the application of the entropy equation ΔS = ΔQ/T when temperature is not constant. Participants note that using the average temperature is an approximation, suitable for small temperature changes, to illustrate that total entropy increases. A more accurate calculation requires calculus, specifically integrating the heat transfer over the varying temperature. The conversation also clarifies the variables used, with n1 representing the number of moles and C_v being the specific heat capacity. Overall, the focus remains on understanding entropy changes in thermodynamic processes.
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This question appears in "Schaums Outline of College Physics". Please click the link:

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My question is how can they use this equation (delta S=(delta Q)/T) when the temperature is not constant? They treat it as being constant by taking the average temp.
 
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p75213 said:
This question appears in "Schaums Outline of College Physics". Please click the link:

http://www.4shared.com/photo/jbJ3lZwT/ScreenHunter_01_Sep_04_1256.html"

My question is how can they use this equation (delta S=(delta Q)/T) when the temperature is not constant? They treat it as being constant by taking the average temp.
It is just an approximation to use the mean temperature over such a small temperature change. The point is to show that total entropy increases.

To do it accurately involves a bit of calculus:

\Delta S_h = \int_{340}^{338} dS = \int_{340}^{338} dQ/T = \int_{340}^{338} n_1C_v dt/T = n_1C_v\ln\left(\frac{338}{340}\right) \approx n_1C_v\left(\frac{2}{339}\right)

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Thanks for the reply. I suspected that was the case.
 
Andrew Mason said:
It is just an approximation to use the mean temperature over such a small temperature change. The point is to show that total entropy increases.

To do it accurately involves a bit of calculus:

\Delta S_h = \int_{340}^{338} dS = \int_{340}^{338} dQ/T = \int_{340}^{338} n_1C_v dt/T = n_1C_v\ln\left(\frac{338}{340}\right) \approx n_1C_v\left(\frac{2}{339}\right)

AM

Elegant. I assume n1 is the mass.
 
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Elegant. I assume n1 is the mass.
I intended n1 to be the number of moles of the gas in the first compartment and C_v to have units of J/mole K. I probably should have used m and Cv in units of J/kg K, since that is what is used in this example.

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