Schrodinger equation, potential energy function

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The discussion revolves around a particle's wave function in quantum mechanics, specifically the Schrödinger equation. The original poster seeks to find the normalization constant A and the potential energy function V(x) that corresponds to the given wave function.

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  • Participants discuss the normalization of the wave function and the integration process required to find A. There are questions about the role of time in the final result and the implications of taking the complex conjugate of the wave function. Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the steps involved in deriving V(x).

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the normalization process and the expectation that time should not appear in the final result for A. There is a recognition of differing interpretations and calculations among participants.

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A particle of mass m is in the state
[tex]\Psi (x,t) = A e^{-a[(mx^2 / \hbar ) + it]}[/tex]Find A
For what potential energy function V(x) does [tex]\Psi[/tex] satisfy the Schrödinger equation?


Do I just re-arrange for A? (Sorry if I seem really dumb). I'm not really getting this.
 
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To find ##A## means to normalize the function. You want
$$
\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \left| \psi(x,t) \right|^2 dx = 1
$$

For the second part, you need to plug the wave function in the Schrödinger equation to find ##V(x)##. My guess is that you will need to use both the time-dependent and the time-independent Schrödinger equations.
 
Here's my attempt, which took over 2 hours >.<

I hope the final answers are right, but am I going about it the right way?
Sorry the photos are blurry.
 

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For the normalization, you have to integrate ##| \psi(x,t) |^2 = \psi(x,t)^* \psi(x,t)##. Time should disappear for the final result for ##A##.
 
I've check the calculation of ##V(x)## and you got it right!
 
DrClaude said:
For the normalization, you have to integrate ##| \psi(x,t) |^2 = \psi(x,t)^* \psi(x,t)##. Time should disappear for the final result for ##A##.

Sorry the picture is really blurry. My final answer does have time in it:

[tex]A = (\dfrac{2ame^{4ait}}{\pi \hbar})^{1/4}[/tex]
 
Cogswell said:
Sorry the picture is really blurry. My final answer does have time in it:

[tex]A = (\dfrac{2ame^{4ait}}{\pi \hbar})^{1/4}[/tex]

And that is not correct. I think you forgot to take the complex conjugate.
 
If I do that wouldn't everything cancel out before I even integrate it?

[tex]\int_{- \infty}^{\infty} A A^* e^{-a[mx^2 / \hbar + it]} e^{a[mx^2 / \hbar + it]} dx = 1[/tex]

And so that would just become:

[tex]\int_{- \infty}^{\infty} A A^*dx = 1[/tex]

??
 
No, because only the imaginary part changes sign:
$$
\left( A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar + i t]} \right)^* = A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar - i t]}
$$
 
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DrClaude said:
No, because only the imaginary part changes sign:
$$
\left( A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar + i t]} \right)^* = A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar - i t]}
$$
Ah yes, that makes sense.

After a bit of working out again, I still think I'm missing something...
Even if I use $$
\left( A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar + i t]} \right)^* = A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar - i t]}
$$
my integral becomes:

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar + i t]} A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar - i t]} dx = 1[/tex]

Which becomes:

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} A^2 e^{-a m x^2/\hbar} e^{ -a i t} e^{-a m x^2/\hbar} e^{a i t} dx = 1[/tex]

If I evaluate the integral, I get the final result of [tex]A = \displaystyle \left(\frac{2am}{ \pi \hbar}\right)^{1/4}[/tex]

And then the time cancels out. So how would I get time left in the final result?
 
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Cogswell said:
If I evaluate the integral, I get the final result of [tex]A = \displaystyle \left(\frac{2am}{ \pi \hbar}\right)^{1/4}[/tex]

And then the time cancels out. So how would I get time left in the final result?
That is the correct answer. You might have misunderstood what I wrote earlier, but time should disappear from the final answer.
 
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Great, thank you!
Is there a 'thanks' or 'like' button on these forums? I can't seem to find it.
 
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Cogswell said:
Great, thank you!
You're welcome!

Cogswell said:
Is there a 'thanks' or 'like' button on these forums? I can't seem to find it.
Not that I know of.
 

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