Seeking general advice for geometry

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The discussion revolves around a participant seeking advice on studying geometry after experiencing difficulty in a geometry class, despite a strong background in algebra. The focus includes study strategies, understanding geometric concepts, and the differences between algebra and geometry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with geometry, noting that it differs significantly from algebra, which they excelled in.
  • Another participant suggests that the struggle may stem from a lack of depth in previous algebra courses and emphasizes the importance of understanding proofs and visualizing geometric concepts.
  • A link to a resource on logic and proof writing is provided, indicating a potential area of focus for improving understanding.
  • Suggestions include visualizing geometric theorems and drawing pictures to aid comprehension, highlighting the subjective nature of learning geometry.
  • Concerns are raised about the participant's adaptation to geometry, indicating that it requires a different approach than algebra.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the challenges of geometry, with some emphasizing the need for visualization and proof skills, while others question the depth of the participant's algebra background. There is no consensus on the best approach to overcome the difficulties mentioned.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential limitations of the participant's previous algebra courses and the need for more time and practice in mathematics. Specific challenges in geometry, such as proofs and visualization, are acknowledged but not resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Students transitioning from algebra to geometry, educators seeking to understand common student challenges, and individuals interested in study strategies for geometry may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello,

I started my class on geometry a couple weeks ago, and I feel that I'm struggling. I took Algebra 1 and 2 over the summer, and I never had a problem. I passed both of those expedited classes never getting less than an A on any assignment, but I got a C on my first geometry test. I'm not sure how to study for this subject. With Algebra, I would practice problems until I was getting them all correctly. Geometry is unlike any previous math I've encountered.
 
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Johnx014 said:
Hello,

I started my class on geometry a couple weeks ago, and I feel that I'm struggling. I took Algebra 1 and 2 over the summer, and I never had a problem. I passed both of those expedited classes never getting less than an A on any assignment, but I got a C on my first geometry test. I'm not sure how to study for this subject. With Algebra, I would practice problems until I was getting them all correctly. Geometry is unlike any previous math I've encountered.
You are an Algebra person and not a Geometry person. Obviously, if you were not an "Algebra" person, then you would have ONLY had trouble in those two Algebra courses which you were enrolled in the summer. Going through Geometry now that you have more time, will still be difficult because it just does not work the same way exactly as the two Algebra did. You now need to learn to prove things which rely on shapes, and some of these are less regular than you would like. Geometry needs a big adaptation to learn it.
 
We don't know what aspects of the course are causing you trouble. Is it the proofs and axioms? visualizing the material? If you spent only one summer on both algebra 1 and 2 it is entirely possible you had rather shallow courses in those and don't really have them down. CVertainly you had little time to practice them thoroughly. Math takes a lot of time and contemplation. What book are you using? I like Jacobs for beginners, and Euclid together with Hartshorne for a deep treatment.

In general I suggest trying to visualize the geometric theorems, draw lots of pictures and iomagine things moving around. I am a geometry person, in fact a professional geometer, but I still find plane geometry tricky and hard to get down completely. There are always situations where I find it hard, or completely resistant, to solve a given problem.
 

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