Selecting a Smaller Resistive Dummy Load for 2.5 Watts

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The discussion revolves around finding a smaller resistive dummy load that can handle 2.5 watts. Participants explore various ideas and considerations regarding resistor specifications, thermal management, and practical applications, including audio and RF circuits.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants clarify that a "2.5 W resistor" is not a complete description, as resistors are defined by their resistance and power rating is a practical consideration.
  • There is a suggestion that tiny resistors can dissipate more than 2.5 W, with examples like the filament of an old flashlight being proposed.
  • Questions are raised about the specific requirements for the dummy load, including peak and average power, whether the power is continuous or pulsed, and the circuit type (audio or RF).
  • Participants discuss the potential for using multiple smaller resistors in parallel to achieve the desired resistance and power rating while managing heat dissipation.
  • One participant mentions that improving thermal conductivity or lowering ambient temperature could allow smaller resistors to handle higher power dissipation.
  • There are considerations about using heat sinks or thermal interfaces to enhance heat dissipation from resistors.
  • Some participants propose that increasing airflow or using liquid cooling could allow for smaller resistors to handle 2.5 W, while also noting safety concerns with high-temperature materials.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the feasibility of using smaller resistors for a 2.5 W load, with no consensus reached on the best approach or specific resistor types. Multiple competing ideas and considerations remain unresolved.

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Limitations include the lack of specific details about the circuit type and conditions under which the dummy load will operate, as well as uncertainties regarding thermal management strategies and resistor specifications.

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Hey guys. I need a resistive dummy load that can handle 2.5 W, but I need it to be much smaller than a 2.5 W resistor. I have looked for different ideas, but I need it to be simple like a resistor and smaller than a 2.5 W resistor.

Any ideas?
 
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A "2.5 W resistor" doesn't make a lot of sense.
A resistor is described by its resistance.
Eventually, its capacity to sustain so heat dissipation (like 2.5 W) is a practical information.
I am quite sure that some very tiny resistor can dissipate 2.5 W and more.
I am thinking for example to the filament of a old-fashion flashlight.
 
maajdl said:
A "2.5 W resistor" doesn't make a lot of sense.
A resistor is described by its resistance.
Eventually, its capacity to sustain so heat dissipation (like 2.5 W) is a practical information.
I am quite sure that some very tiny resistor can dissipate 2.5 W and more.
I am thinking for example to the filament of a old-fashion flashlight.

Huh?

The "tiny" resistors we use (0603, 0402) are only rated in the 1/10W to 1/20W range. Even in the old days 1/4 watt resistors were most common. A 3W resistor is a big resistor.

OP: how small do you need? Any air flow available? How stable does the resistance need to be? Any object nearby you can heatsink it to?
 
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and added to the emi guy's questions

what is the peak power likely to be supplied to the dummy load
what is the average power likely to be supplied to the dummy load
is it continuous ?
is it pulsed ?
if pulsed ... what is the duty cycle, on time/ off time ratio
That will decide what wattage rating the resistor would need to be

but some other basic info from you mite also help...

is this audio or RF ?
tell us about the circuit

cheers
Dave
 
What resistance, 50R ?

If you use cheap lossy coax, (such as RG58), it will absorb much of the energy before it gets to the dummy load, which can be placed where there is more space and cooling available.

If you distribute the power into several small resistors you will dissipate heat more efficiently.

Two 100R, 1W in parallel gives you 50R, 2W.
Three 150R, 1W in parallel gives you 50R, 3W.

Four 100R, 0.25W in parallel gives you 25R, 1W.
Two 4 x 25R, 0.25W in series gives you 50R, 2W.

Six 150R, 0.25W in parallel gives you 25R, 1.5W.
Two 6 x 25R, 1.5W in series gives you 50R, 3W.
 
What resistance, 50R ?

who knows LOL
hopefully he will come back and answer all the questions

we don't even know if its audio RF or something else ?

Dave
 
The power rating of a resistor is based on its maximum permissible temperature and its thermal conductivity to the ambient air. The only way to make a smaller resistor withstand higher power dissipation is to improve its thermal conductivity or lower the ambient temperature.

For example, if the physical situation is such that you can mount a 1/2 watt resistor to a metal surface of some type with thermally conductive epoxy (creating a heat sink), maybe you can keep the temperature rise low enough.

I don't know about the thermal conductivity from the core of the resistor to the surface, and what type of resistor is best from that viewpoint.
 
Everyone has to start somewhere.

In the air cooled situation it is better to generate heat on the surface of a leaf than at the centre of a cylinder or sphere.
 
The only way to make a 'smaller' 2.5W rated resistor is to dramatically increase either the airflow across it (forced airflow), or some form of liquid cooling, direct or through a metal interface. Heatpipes would also transfer the heat elsewhere, but I doubt that's what you're after. The only other option is to find some resistive material that can operate at very high temps, say 200C - 500C, which would greatly increase its ability for the 2.5W to be transferred to the air via convection. Of course, safety issues are a problem here... The wattage ratings on standard resistors are largely based on their maximum permissible operating temps.
 

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