Self adjoint operators, eigenfunctions & eigenvalues

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The discussion focuses on the self-adjointness of operators defined on the space P_n with a hermitian L^2 inner product. Operators A, B, and C are analyzed, revealing that A is not self-adjoint while B and C are. The eigenvalues for A, B, and C are determined to be ik, -k, and -k^2, respectively, with eigenfunctions e^{ikθ}. For operator D, it is concluded to be self-adjoint, and the eigenvalues are explored through constraints on the coefficients of the eigenfunctions, leading to a basis for the eigenspace with eigenvalue zero and the eigenvalue two for specific combinations of eigenfunctions. The analysis emphasizes the importance of correctly matching indices and understanding the properties of eigenfunctions in relation to the operators.
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Homework Statement


Consider the space ##P_n = \text{Span}\{ e^{ik\theta};k=0,\pm 1, \dots , \pm n\}##,
with the hermitian ##L^2##-inner product
##\langle f,g\rangle = \int_{-\pi}^\pi f(\theta) \overline{g(\theta)}d\theta##.
Define operators ##A,B,C,D## as
##A = \frac{d}{d\theta}, \; \; B= i\frac{d}{d\theta}, \; \; C= \frac{d^2}{d\theta^2}, \; \; D: f\to D f(\theta) = f(\theta) + f(-\theta)##.
Which of the operators are self-adjoint? Find the eigenvalues and eigenfunctions for each operator.

Homework Equations


The operator ##T## is self adjoint iff
##\langle Tf,g \rangle = \langle f,Tg\rangle## for all ##f,g## in the ##P_n##.

The Attempt at a Solution


Mostly looking for some quick input if I'm getting this roughly right or not since there's no answer and I'm a bit unsure.
I first write ##f(\theta) = \sum_{-n}^n c_k e^{ik\theta}##. We're allowed to differentiate since ##f(\theta)## is in ##C^\infty##. Differentiating we have ##f'(\theta) = \sum_{-n}^n ikc_k e^{ik\theta}## and ##f''(\theta ) = \sum_{-n}^n -k^2c_k e^{ik\theta}##. every part of ##f(\theta )## is ##2\pi##-periodic so the only time we get a contribution to the integral is when the the exponential terms cancel each other exactly.
A) In this case when the index matches so we have##\langle Af, g\rangle = \int_{-\pi}^\pi \sum_{-n}^n \left( ika_kb_k \right) d\theta = 2\pi \sum_{-n}^n ika_k\overline{b_k}##.
and ##\langle f, Ag\rangle = \int_{-\pi}^\pi \left( \sum_{-n}^n -ika_k\overline{b_k} \right) d\theta = -2\pi \sum_{-n}^n ika_k\overline{b_k}## so not self-adjoint.
Similary we see that both B and C are self-adjoint.

The eigenvalues would be the functions ##e^{ikx}## for ##k = \pm 1, \pm 2,\dots , \pm n## and the eigenvalues for for ##A,B## and ##C## are ##ik, -k## and ##-k^2## respectively.

The case ##D## is slightly harder we have
##\langle Df,g \rangle = \langle f,g \rangle + \int_{-\pi}^\pi f(-\theta)\overline{g(\theta)}d\theta## and
##\langle f,Dg \rangle = \langle f,g \rangle + \int_{-\pi}^\pi f(\theta)\overline{g(-\theta)}d\theta##
So we need to prove that ##\int_{-\pi}^\pi f(-\theta)\overline{g(\theta)} = \int_{-\pi}^\pi f(\theta)\overline{g(-\theta)}d\theta##. Again matching the coefficients we have for the left side
##\int_{-\pi}^\pi \left( \sum_{-n}^n a_k\overline{b_{n-k}} \right) d\theta##
and the right side
##\int_{-\pi}^\pi \left( \sum_{-n}^n a_k\overline{b_{n-k}}\right) d\theta## which matches so self adjoint. The eigenvalues should be ##\frac{a_k+a_{n-k}}{a_k}## and the eigenfunctions the same as before. Did I understand this right?
 
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Your work looks mostly sound.
You have omitted the case ##k=0##, which gives an additional eigenvalue of 0 for A, B, C, with the eigenvector being any constant.

For D, I also conclude it is Hermitian but I get the integrals being like this

$$
\int_{-\pi}^\pi \left( \sum_{-n}^n a_k\overline{b_{-k}} \right) d\theta
$$

The eigenvalues won't be of the form you gave because the ##a_k## coefficients are properties of the function ##f##, not the operator D.

Given the revised integral, can you work out what eigenvalues and eigenfunctions of D will be?
 
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andrewkirk said:
Your work looks mostly sound.
For D, I also conclude it is Hermitian but I get the integrals being like this

$$
\int_{-\pi}^\pi \left( \sum_{-n}^n a_k\overline{b_{-k}} \right) d\theta
$$

The eigenvalues won't be of the form you gave because the ##a_k## coefficients are properties of the function ##f##, not the operator D.

Given the revised integral, can you work out what eigenvalues and eigenfunctions of D will be?
Thanks for taking the time replying! You're absolutely right about the index in that sum and thanks for clarifying that I can't have those constants from the function as an eigenvalue.

If I write out ##Df(\theta)## I have ##\sum_{-N}^N \left(c_k e^{ik\theta} + c_ke^{-ik\theta} \right) = \sum_{-N}^N (c_k + c_{-k})e^{ik\theta}##
I'm not sure I get all eigenfunctions here but I was thinking if I take eigenfunctions of the form ##f\in P_n## with the added constraint that ##c_k+c_{-k}=0## I have the eigenvalue zero?

I also possibly see other eigenvalues For example
if I choose the constrant that ##c_{-k} = ac_{k}## with ##a## being a complex number I have the eigenvalue ##(1+a)##. But not sure if I'm allowed too do this? The eigenvalue doesn't vary like in the last case(which was obviously wrong) but I do use properties from the function I guess.
 
Incand said:
I was thinking if I take eigenfunctions of the form ##f\in P_n## with the added constraint that ##c_k+c_{-k}=0## I have the eigenvalue zero?
That sounds right. What would be a neat basis for the eigenspace with eigenvalue zero?

Incand said:
I also possibly see other eigenvalues For example
if I choose the constrant that ##c_{-k} = ac_{k}## with ##a## being a complex number I have the eigenvalue ##(1+a)##.
To see if this works, apply D to ##f(\theta)=e^{-ik\theta}+ae^{ik\theta}## and see what you get. Is it a complex scalar multiple of ##f(\theta)##?

What about other nonzero eigenvalues?
 
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andrewkirk said:
That sounds right. What would be a neat basis for the eigenspace with eigenvalue zero?
Perhaps ##\{e^{ik\theta}-e^{-ik\theta} \}_0^n ## that is the basis ##\{ 1, e^{i\theta}-e^{-i\theta}, \dots , e^{in\theta}-e^{-in\theta} \}##.
The basis vector aint orthogonal nor normalized but if one wants we could get there with Gram-Schmidts method.

andrewkirk said:
To see if this works, apply D to ##f(\theta)=e^{-ik\theta}+ae^{ik\theta}## and see what you get. Is it a complex scalar multiple of ##f(\theta)##?

What about other nonzero eigenvalues?
##D\left( e^{-ik\theta}+ae^{ik\theta} \right) = e^{-ik\theta} + ae^{ik\theta} + e^{ik\theta} + e^{-ik\theta} = (1+a) \left(e^{-ik\theta}+e^{ik\theta} \right)##. Right this doesn't work since I should have a ##a## in there as well.

So instead let's look at the case when ##c_{-k} = c_{k}## we have
##D(e^{ik\theta}+ e^{-ik\theta}) =e^{ik\theta}+ e^{-ik\theta} + e^{-ik\theta}+ e^{ik\theta} = 2(e^{ik\theta}+ e^{-ik\theta})##. So we have the eigenvalue two for the eigenfunctions as a linear combination of ##\{e^{ik\theta}+e^{-ik\theta} \}_0^n##. I don't think there's actually any more eigenvalues.
 
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