Sending communications on light waves

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and stability of using light waves for interstellar communications, exploring the impact of interstellar mediums, potential interference from celestial bodies, and theoretical implications of communication strategies. It touches on both practical and speculative aspects of communication technologies based on light waves.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether all light waves are stable for communication and considers the effects of frequency and interstellar mediums on data transmission.
  • The same participant speculates on the potential for interference from celestial bodies, such as suns and asteroids, when sending data over long distances.
  • There is a suggestion that a network of satellites and refocusers could mitigate interference and enhance communication security.
  • Another participant emphasizes that most modern communications already utilize light waves, including various forms of radio communication, which are part of the electromagnetic spectrum.
  • A historical reference is made to semaphore towers as an early method of sending messages using light, illustrating that light-based communication has a long history.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of speculative scenarios involving extraterrestrial intelligence and the seriousness of the initial question regarding light wave communications. There is no consensus on the implications of interstellar mediums or the necessity of complex equations for modeling communications.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the stability of light waves and the effects of interstellar mediums remain unresolved. The discussion includes speculative elements that may not align with established scientific discourse.

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Here's a quick question...though it may stick on your mind for a while and become a long question. Are all light waves going to be stable for sending communications or is...this is semi rhetorical...the freqeuency of the light going to make the communication of data subject to interstellar mediums. Also, an interesting thing to think about is that if you sent data in a straight line many many light years away what is the probability that the communication will or won't be interfered with by suns and path crossing asteroids. Perhaps a series of satellites and refocusers could be used to move communications around star systems. Imagine if they were stealthed too. One of the only ways to intercept these communications would include having knowledge of the language or being able to decipher the intercept. Then you'd need to triangulate the source and destroy the satellite; or in a cunning show of evil genius transmit communications with a synthesizer that mimic the voice of the communication to set traps...I know...I know...theory crafting is semi frowned upon here. However, it seems plausible a highly intelligent race may be doing this for security out there somewhere, and really, the foundation for such claims that this may be occurring are based on real possible science. For anybody that doesn't know that reads this we have a satellite that has left the solar system that still sends communications back to earth.

More on topic with my initial question. Would the wave group equation for interstellar communications turn out to be a complex matrices with material equations in it to determine the effect of the mediums between origin and destination or do you think it could be justifiably and accurately represented by one simple classical equation...once again...partially rhetorical because I don't see how with all the evidence of doppler shifting we could expect w(f(i)) to be the same as w(f(f)). Let's try to get a good discussion going on this.
 
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You're getting way ahead of yourself, man.
Almost all of our communications these days are on light waves. Broadcast TV (as opposed to cable), radio, cordless and cellular phones, WiFi... they're all radio based, and radio is just another part of the EM spectrum as are the various frequencies of visible and near-visible light.
Your assumptions about evil aliens have no place in a serious science forum. It might be interesting if moved to General Discussion.
 
I once read a review of a history book that referred to a remark in the history book to the effect that hundreds of years ago, new could not travel faster than a fast horse. The person writing the review pointed out that this was not true. News could be sent very fast through the use of "semaphore towers" (with large vanes that could be moved so that a person far away could see the position of the vanes and "read" the message, or by "dot-dash" light signals or even sending "yes-no" information by setting up a series of bon-fires that could be lit to send a signal.

All of those are "sending communications on light waves"!
 

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