Set up polar area integral of ellipse

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The discussion focuses on setting up the polar area integral for an ellipse defined by the equation \(\frac{x^2}{a^2} + \frac{y^2}{b^2} = 1\). The integral is expressed in polar coordinates using the transformation \(x = a \cos(t)\) and \(y = b \sin(t)\). The area is derived using the formula \(A = \frac{1}{2} \int_0^{2\pi} (ab \cos^2(t) + ab \sin^2(t)) \, dt\). The conversation also touches on the application of Green's theorem and Jacobians for calculating the area.

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Homework Statement



Set up the integral for the area of the ellipse:
\frac{x^2}{a^2} =\frac{y^2}{b^2} \le 1
in polar coordinates.

Homework Equations



maybe \int_\alpha^\beta \int_a^b f(rcos\theta , rsin \theta ) r \; dr \; d\theta
or more likely \int_a^b \frac{1}{2} r^2 \; d\theta

The Attempt at a Solution



well, x=acos(t) and y=bsin(t)
and dx=-asin(t) and dy=bcos(t)
or is it dx=-asin(t) \; dt and dy=bcos(t) \; dt ?

And somehow I need to get to A=\frac{1}{2} [ \int_0^{2\pi } abcos^2(t) + absin^2(t) \; dt ]

I looked at \frac{1}{2} \int_0^{2\pi} ([f(\theta )]^2 - [g(\theta )]^2) \; d\theta

but that gives a^2 and b^2 , not ab.

This is for vector calculus so if you know a better formula it is definitely on the table. Anything goes. :cry: This is only the first step in a problem where ultimately I'll be doing some Stokes theorem stuff. But first, I must set this up in polar form.

Oh, and I apologize for some formulas using t and others using theta. I am trying to work out of my old calculus book, but prof uses a different notation. i wrote the formulas exactly as I see them so that I do not confuse anyone with an error I might make in meaning. But I'm guessing t and theta are the same thing in these set ups.

hey... theta starts with a t...maybe that's why people use t! .. okay crazy person rant over...
 
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Hm, I see this maybe Green's theorem in action. Let's put this on hold for a minute.
 
If the length of the semi major and semi minor axes and a and b, then you can represent the ellipse as:

x = acos{t}
y = bsin{t}


and recall that:

r^{2} = x^{2} + y^{2}

This should send you in the right direction. Alternatively, if you know about Jacobians, then you can calculate the Jacobian and set up your integral that way.
 
I used Green's theorem
\frac{1}{2} \int (xdy - ydx)
and reached the desired result.

Thanks for your input DivisionbyZro.
 

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