Settle and arguement between retards

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The discussion centers on a misunderstanding of engine load, particularly regarding the effects of gear selection and driving conditions. One participant insists that engine load remains constant regardless of whether the vehicle is on an incline or flat terrain, which contradicts established automotive principles. It is clarified that accelerating in lower gears, such as third gear, creates more load on the engine compared to higher gears like fifth, especially under various driving conditions. Factors like gear ratio, wind resistance, and vehicle speed significantly influence engine load and performance. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding these concepts for proper vehicle operation and maintenance.
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Settle and argument between retards :)

http://turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?t=19999&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

basically is a car forum with a guy on there NO ONE can convince.

he does not understand the concept of load put on let's say an engine.

for example, accelerating up a hill, would put more of a load on the engine, rather than accelerating on a flat surfce.

the argument is basically, accelerating in 5th gear puts more of a load on the engine than let's say 3rd gear, which is definatly correct. because the lower gear ratio, amoungst other factors (wind resistance at high speeds, ect) generate a larger load on an engine therefore making it more prone to high temps/detonation/ect...

all common knowledge, but he won't understand. i was hopefully someone who is a real physics wiz would be able to explain this in terms this kid could understand.

thanks, here is some quotes from him LOL


Your engine has the same load whether your going up a 45 degree angle or on a flat road. Why can't you understand this?

I was talking about you and rogue, you are still completely wrong. You are not partially correct whatsoever. Load increases only when you step your foot on the gas peddal further. Load can't increase if your peddal is to the floor.

No matter what ****in type of load it is. Whether its the map sensor reading, or physical load on the crankshaft.

the truth is neither one of you understand,

At Wide Open throttle...the load on your engine is the same whether your in 4th gear or 5th gear.

Tell that to anybody with intelligence and they will agree

hp output is the definination of load, hp stays constant.
 
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the argument is basically, accelerating in 5th gear puts more of a load on the engine than let's say 3rd gear, which is definatly correct. because the lower gear ratio, amoungst other factors (wind resistance at high speeds, ect) generate a larger load on an engine therefore making it more prone to high temps/detonation/ect...
if u r already going 70mph and starts to accelerate in 5th gear it won't put that much "load" as if u try to accelerate it while going 20mph, coz of friction, kinetic energy and viscous drag.i don't what is his point of view.
but RPM can be held responsible for wearing down engine more that load coz in an engine with a given amount of fuel the pressure is almost always the same. but exessive load will damage the crank shaft and the gears because of coupling of torques, one for the engine itself and other from the load.
 
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